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With $1,500USD and GSA Ser I hope to rank #1

Discussion in 'My Journey Discussions' started by Welcome2TheU, Mar 31, 2017.

  1. Welcome2TheU

    Welcome2TheU Junior Member

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    Hey BHW, I'm a long-time reader who is finally giving black hat a try.

    Goal: To rank a newly built website for my family's business.
    Moz kw difficulty: 18-20
    Resources: $1,500 USD, GSA Ser, FCS Networker, Captchasniper, (1) aged domain
    About me: I've read lots about black hat SEO, but I've never tried it.
    My family has a local small business that would benefit greatly if it could pull in some customers from Google. I've decided to use some black hat and white hat tactics to help my family out.

    Recently I lost my job, but thankfully I have money saved up. If I can succeed with this SEO project, then I would have learned a skill that can provide for me and my loved ones.
    Black hat strategy:
    1. Build a PBN network
    2. Create a tiered linking system
    3. Purchase social signals


    What I've done so far:
    About six weeks ago I built the base of the site, just to have some pages up and indexed. I've yet to add much written content and yet to do on-page optimization.

    About three weeks ago I ordered a link package from one of the marketplace providers. Without all the links being indexed yet and without yet doing on-page optimization, the website has gone from unlisted to page 9. I'm going to wait on the links to get indexed and then optimize the page before passing judgment on the service.

    I also applied to put my family's business on Google Local. I waited for them to send me something in the mail and I then verified the business, but I am yet to see it in Google's map.

    What's next:
    I'm interested in long-term success, not short-term victories. From reading BHW there are two factors in link-building that seem very important for those who want long-term investments:
    1. You want to have good, unique content on websites that look genuine, not like spam. This is so they can pass a manual review from Google (you don't want to get penalized).

    2. You want to have control over domains, because you don't want someone to come and take down your page or nofollow your links (like could happen to your web 2.0s). This is one reason people praise PBNs.
    With that said, I'm going to do most work in-house from now on to ensure quality. I'm going to apply for a no-interest credit card, just so I can have less pressure when making purchases. That means it may take a few weeks until I make any large purchases (like a PBN).

    For the time-being I'll start organizing for a tiered linking system.

    Tiered link building: Parasite sites and web 2.0 buffer sites
    It's time for me to do some research.

    Parasite sites
    In the past I've read parasite sites are a great way to add authority to your site (I'll have to re-read why that is a good thing - lol). Basically you open social media accounts for your money site (on Facebook, Youtube, About.me, etc). In each account you add a link to your money site. Then you blast those "parasite sites" with spam links.

    Web 2.0 buffer sites
    What should I do hear?

    • FCS Networker is a service that builds Web 2.0s. I have access to this service, but I've heard that FCS Networker isn't any good. Does anybody have recent information on this?

    • If I don't use FCS Networker, then I need to either build the web 2.0s manually or purchase them in the marketplace.

    • Once I actually have web 2.0s built (and parasite sites), it's time to blast up...

    GSA Search Engine Ranker
    This is supposed to be the premier tiered link building software. Even though I have access to it, I don't really know much about it.

    • Some have said I'll need to purchase Captchabreaker even though I already have Captchasniper.
    • I believe I'll have to buy private proxies.
    • I think I may need to get some spinning software.
    • And I think I may need to get Scrapebox in order to find properties to build links on.

    Well, that's all for now. Next time to post I hope to share some of the information I've learned regarding tiered link building. If you've read this and have helpful information, I'd really appreciate it.

    Have a great day! :)
     
  2. shaheerkhan

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    Would love to see the results
     
  3. MisterF

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    Is your family business their only source of income?

    Do they have walk in customers, if they're a shop / retail outlet ?

    How much will they rely on website traffic / orders ?

    Reason I ask is if it could damage their living by poor seo and any penalties, I'd suggest you experiment on a MNS type site to start with.

    Either way, G/L.
     
  4. darulez

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    honestly, dude.. I kind of shook my head
    you got 1,5k?
    why dont you spend that money on some REAL niche relevant blog posts?
    for approx 50-100€ you can get some decent quality.
    and the time saved for this one time "seo tool storm",you spend on great content....
     
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    yeah, I hope e atleast creates some buffer sites, so in case of fred 2.0 update he can cut those ties later :/

    but, in the end, he will learn. there are always some "redirects" for future available.
    hence, he could eventually turn the spammed2death domain into a real PBN ;)
     
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    How competitive is the niche? If it's a local keyword around a small niche you should rank much better than page 9 if you already build links.
     
  7. SilverJanuary

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    If you're using GSA and mass building links, I hope you've done all your research for Bing and Yahoo. The ship has long sailed for Google.

    You'll be competing with some true black hatters for Google keywords.
     
  8. Welcome2TheU

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    Thank you everyone for your responses.

    As of now the business runs smoothly without any customers coming from the web. The business' website and domain are brand new, so there's nothing to lose there.

    With that said I rather adhere to safer methods in hope of avoiding penalties.

    What would you consider the safest methods?

    Thank you for taking time to respond. Could you talk more about what you're suggesting?

    I'm not sure what you mean, but I believe you are suggesting to purchase links on other people's blogs. Is that right?

    Hey there darulez, any help you can provide would be very much appreciated.

    The initial link package I purchased was multi-tiered with the top tier of web 2.0s pointing to the money site. Honestly speaking though, I've looked through the packages web 2.0s and I do not believe they would pass manual inspection.

    In the future I plan to only link PBNs and web 2.0s whose content I've had part in to the money site.

    What do you think?

    We live in a city of about 500,000 people. There are quite a few established shops Ranking on the top pages as well as a dozen or so high authority sites.

    The links have already been built. The provider told me it could take another month for indexing to finish. Plus it's time for me to add more content and optimize the site.

    This is news to me. As far as I have read GSA is the best resource for tier 2 and lower links.

    Could you offer some advice?
     
  9. jiungsong

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    Yes, he meant spend the money to purchase links from real, niche-relevant websites. Many websites may offer to guest post for free for high quality content, but you can get links from the real powerful ones in your niche by paying around $50-$300 (really nice ones). These will definitely boost your site and will even do better than your PBN sites, although it may cost a bit more.
     
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    Ranking a website with GSA??

    [​IMG]
     
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    You can use that kind of money to get some high quality links my man. Wouldn't go with GSA for a family business unless you were super experienced with it and insure links are of some kind of quality.

    Also, don't listen to anyone that says "googles ship has long sailed" lmao I haven't met a person yet who uses bing and sure as hell haven't met one that uses yahoo.
     
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    im doing exactly the same without buying pbns and social signals
     
  13. darulez

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    ROI is the same.
    PBNs have other purposes though. YOU control them,
    PBN posts from suppliers are another thing.

    if you have the budget, I would use a blend
     
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    you can blast GSA or some other "self service seo panel" to switchblades, aka buffer sites, but it takes months to see some effetz if you blast to few.

    honestly, I like that automated spam.

    but my time is valuable. so I spend it either on BHW, my girl, or on getting high RD/DR clean expired domains.
    if i am lazy, I ask nargil..
     
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  15. Welcome2TheU

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    Update:

    1) On-page SEO has been optimized. The keyword has been placed in the title, h1, about 2% density in the body, in an image's filename and in its alt attribute. Basically everywhere it's supposed to be other than the URL (because I'm trying to rank the homepage).

    2) Reading people's replies (thank you in particular to darulez - you've led me to read a lot of nargil's posts) and it has made me re-think my plans. As I stated before, I'm interested in years and years of success. I don't want to throw that away for short-term victories. I now think the tiered link package I bought in the marketplace is too spammy-looking to be pointing straight to my money site. I'm not quite sure what to do with those links yet.

    3) Two days I created a few white-hat links:
    • One Wikipedia link (citation) that is published and that will hopefully stick around.
    • One Reddit link that naturally got 75+ upvotes (I was really tempted to purchase upvotes though to really boost it).
    • One Imgur link. The image only got like 50 votes, so it's probably a useless link.
     
  16. SEO

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    All sites naturally get garbage links, so assuming the link blast you bought wasn't too insane (like thousands of tier 1 links) you can probably leave it alone and just try to balance it out with good links. If you think the blast is causing you problems or you just want to be extra careful, you can disavow the links within the Google Search Console.

    The good thing about the tiered links is you only have to disavow the first tier links pointing directly at your site, not the other tiers. Also, just because it hasn't been mentioned in this thread and I don't know what you've learned so far, make sure you are balancing your follow/nofollow and branded/generic/money keyword phrases. Link building is really tough when you're first starting out and has only gotten tougher as Google has made their updates.

    One thing I like to do is find a site that clearly isn't someone's livelihood (dead blogs are good targets for me), and run link building tests on it to try ranking it for certain phrases. It's a great way to test methods hard without having to build out your own site or worry about screwing up.
     
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    That's a huge amount of start up money. Will definitely look forward on the results
     
  18. Welcome2TheU

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    It's been some time but the work hasn't stopped, so let me update you.

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    Instead of going purely blackhat, I've gone whitehat as well. I've been able to get a legit Wikipedia link, I've had my website added to high quality local directories, and I've done a press release.

    All of this has only gotten me to page 4 of Google, but it has luckily resulted in multiple new customers and the profits that came with them.

    My current action is to try out the expired web 2.0 method. I've purchased Scrapebox and got a month's supply of proxies from SquidProxies.com, both of which I'm happy with. Once I add the links to the web 2.0s I'll wait and see what effect they have.

    Wish me luck! :)
     
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    Good job man! I'm glad to hear you're seeing some results. Keep working hard and learning :)
     
  20. randybishop

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    All this firepower for a local site is overkill.

    IMHO, you are wasting time and money and could possibly get a google slap.
    See what the competition in your space is doing. The sites ranking on the first page
    for your local keywords are probably not going to have a ton of backlinks. Local sites are not the same as global sites in terms of backlinks. Local sites grow more slowly due to a small customer base looking for services in a small area. Blasting it with links (even a small amount) will alert google that something is being artificially engineered.

    Go total whitehat for a local seo site. You don't need a ton of links to rank. Mostly it will take time to rank (6 mons- 1 year), as your site/business becomes more established in the area. Focus on perfect onsite SEO and google reviews.
     
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