Winning The IM Game Part II: Playing To Win & The Miracle Comeback

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  1. infinitehorizons

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  2. hardcorebiker

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    Woah this looks awesome..Repped before reading :)
     
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    wow, long thread...great advice
     
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    its real... Nothing is never easy and the truth of the matter is " How bad do you want it? Are you willing to give up everything to achieve it?" Great Post Infinite-horizons.....
     
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    great thread mate, thanks!
    I need this.... i really need this...
     
  6. twilightofidols

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    This says it all right here. Sometimes people think they can buy a system to make money. It doesn't work like that. It took me a year before I saw any money working every day tirelessly sometimes around 60 hours a week. Hear me out newbies! I worked every day for a year making 0 dollars, when I came here I didn't even know what a proxy was, but I kept going even though I thought it was hopeless. Now that very same site that was completely destroyed by Penguin earlier this year is making me enough that I could live comfortably ALONE in a Manhattan apartment if I so chose to.

    All the best lessons I learned was from trying and finding out what works for me. I haven't downloaded a WSO or anything of that sort in probably 6 months now. That information was a great starting point for me to pool ideas from, but the real money came when I stopped listening to what everyone else was saying and just doing what I KNOW works. Sometimes I refrain from giving advice because what works for me in some instances goes against common SEO knowledge and I've gotten flamed on a few boards for defying the almighty gurus. But you know what? I don't give a damn. Because I am paying my bills.
     
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  7. voljin

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    I can't rep you twice, so i thought i would reply here to say thank you very much Infinitehorizons for creating this thread. I can relate it with my IM journey. Failed, broke and fucked again and again. Heck, even it seems hopeless for me now, i will never ever give up. I'm going to made it real soon.

    Thanks again for the inspiration and word of wisdom :)
     
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  8. jascoken

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    The problem is that most people coming into IM are sold on the fake dream of easy money with little effort...

    Once you realise that you're going to have to work just as hard (or harder) as you would in any bricks-and-mortar or traditional business then you have a 'chance' of succeeding. But only a chance mind you.

    If you're prepared to work 12-18 hours per day when you start (like most new business owners do) and expect massive failure and a steep learning curve in the first 6-12 months, together with a bunch of wasted money from all the things that you have to try and learn from, then you're chances just got higher.

    We all create our own 'luck' in some way; or rather we create the conditions for luck to manifest. But never ever believe anyone who tells you that you don't need lady luck on your side; in every business you need 'breaks' - but they can only happen if you're creating the conditions and cicumstances that allow them to manifest for you. And then you have to 'spot' them happening and move on them... big time!

    Business is also cyclical; it's rarely constant. Your income will cycle up and down; don't expect to land a 'retirement' site which will pay you forever. You need to constantly evolve and add/change/cycle/diversify your income streams to give yourself as much protection as possible.

    And don't fool yourself; if you need to stay in a shitty job for a year (or more) while you learn - then do it...

    But remember that the biggest part of IM/learning is experience; and that doesn't mean reading posts and ebooks. Take action/Try... Then test & measure. Rinse/repeat.

    As is clearly stated above; ONLY massive action and effort will create the conditions to allow success to find you. I'm one of the 'lucky' ones (Read: Worked my ass off to create the conditions for luck)... I made over half a million dollars this year personally (it would have been closer to a million if Google had left Panda and Penguin in bed for another year!) and there are plenty of guys on here doing over a million a year.

    I remember what it felt like when I started; I wondered if it would ever happen 'for me'. It CAN be done; but only if you work/learn/practice/push harder/smarter than you ever thought possible... Otherwise; do yourself a favour and stick to a career/job that you have a chance of a good future with.

    The 'honest' truth is that this isn't for everyone. I expect the vast majority of people who try IM will fail; but may go on to have successful businesses/careers in other areas. This isn't your only option! I know SO many successful people who look back over careers and say that they kinda wished they hadn't spent so long on THAT particular idea/project - because it was only after 'letting go' of that concept that they alllowed themselves to move onto the thing that eventually worked for them. It's SO easy to fool yourself that you're doing what's required; the worst mistake you can make is not be honest to yourself.
     
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    Very nice and inspiring posts! Thank you for spending time and writing all this. Many people need to sit down and read all of this if they want to understand how all this works :)
    Play the game with a smile on our face ;)
     
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    Thanks for your thoughts guys, and for reading.
    jascoken - good point on the commitment.

    Let me not forget how much I have worked my ass off.
    This post is not as "sexy" with the big number in the headline.
    It's raw truth - which is not as sexy sometimes!
     
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    infinitehorizons is an awesome guy. I have learnt tons from him during our private chats @ Skype.

    Listen to his advice and I'm sure you also will succeed.
     
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    another great post. Thank a lot :)
     
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    Thank you for your comments and thanks!!!

    Part III will tie together parts I and II and attempt to turn this philosophy into a standard of excellence.


    Really appreciate the thoughtful feedback and long replies to the thread - it's always nice to be inspired while attempting to inspire.
    Sometimes what we give away we get to keep even more of :)
     
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    Great Thread OP! + Rep
     
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    1. Faith in what I cannot see
    2. The vision to create what is not yet there without any reassurance that it will be real before I get there

    Priceless!!!

    Keep it up...i cant wait for part 3 ^^
     
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