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Windows 8 using 80% of 6GB RAM - Is this normal?

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  1. ShadeDream

    ShadeDream Elite Member

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    We got a SAMSUNG Series 5 550P5C laptop as a Christmas present for someone and I think there may be something wrong with it but I may just as well be wrong myself. It has 6GB of RAM and runs on Windows 8 but it constantly runs at 80% RAM. In the RAM usage tab it sticks to roughly 4.9GB leaving only 1.1GB free. Is this normal? Part of Windows 8 being optimized? Don't really like the look of it...
     
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    Wow! That is crazy. I don't even know the answer, I just had to troll that question my good friend :D
     
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    Its is normal.

    I assume you misinterpret it. Windows is "caching" stuff in the RAM so your often used Applications start from RAM ;)

    Its a feature.
     
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    in windows 8 it is - Windows 8, not even once
     
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    ille stick with xp - 4gig ram using about 500 meg tweaked .
     
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    They say empty RAM is wasted RAM but 80% out of the box is a bit much? I will need to borrow the laptop for a day and play about with it to see if it freezes up or anything because if there's something wrong then we'll be taking it back to the store. Generally it seems to be quite fast but once or twice it did lag for a few seconds and then went back to normal. Personally I'm not a great fan of Windows 8 but we'll see how that goes.

    PS. I've been Googling to find some more information about this matter and damn Google is fast at indexing this thread... lol
     
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    x-bassist Junior Member

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    No, its not normal. I use windows 8 and 8 Gb of RAM.
    Right now, i am opening chrome (1tab), and firefox (6 tab), and just using 28% of RAM.
     
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    Is that a laptop or desktop? Which brand?
     
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    Try turning off superfetch/prefetch, although if this is a new computer it shouldn't really have added things to superfetch. Do you have large applications already installed? Things like Photoshop? Superfetch pre-loads common programs into memory so that when you open them, they are already pre-loaded kinda thing.

    What does taskmanager say in regards to which programs are using memory?
     
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    My PC with Windows 7 needs about 2.5-3GB RAM. I bet your laptop is running some extra programs. I don't know how to use the task manager in Win8, but there is displayed how much RAM every process uses.
     
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    thats why i love xp - boot it install all your crap
    then msconfig - disable all junk startup rubbish
    then services.msc and disable or set to manual
    all the windows crap you dont need...
    knocks down about 15 processors and alota memory
     
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    I will stick with win 7. installed win 8 just to see what's the hype all about and formatted hdd in minutes of operating win 8.
    win xp i love to run softwares on it. even 256MB of ram works fine.

    You can use Process Explorer to see detailed memory usage.
     
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    This is not a problem and is quite normal, the memory will be released as you run additional applications.
     
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    According to task manager everything looks fine, there is nothing that would make you wonder. I've actually tried killing quite a few processes and it didn't help much. The laptop is brand new just out of the box with nothing but bloatware.

    It can't be normal because the disk usage also goes up and down to 80% and even up to 100% when the computer is pretty much idle. I'd imagine running more apps would bring the laptop to a halt hence I don't want to install additional software atm.

    I took a screenshot just to show you guys what happens, I didn't bother taking one of the actual processes and details because there's nothing you can spot by looking at that.

    [​IMG]

    I've also found a few links on the net where people have had similar issues:
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    http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-performance/windows-8-memory-leak-why-system-use-85-of-ram/3f0ed59e-957d-403c-8bde-65256c3bdcf8
    The laptop is under 30 days old, I don't know if it's an issue with the hardware, the drivers, or if Windows 8 is just gay but if I can't figure it out by tomorrow then I'll probably be going back to the shop... Grrr!
     
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    If its a 32-bit OS, then it probably uses on 4 GB, whether or not you install more RAM than that becomes irrelevant. If the processor is using a 64-bit OS, then your concern becomes valid for a brand new machine. IMO, I think the 80% is only showing the work that is being crunched out of the 4 GB and leaving the rest alone, which is the reason you are seeing an alarming percentage of work being done.
    Still, get it checked out for malware or any other virus with a good anti-virus . My 2 cents.
     
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    Try looking into the running applications all of em and see if there is any anomalies for memory usage
     
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    I don't know of a computer brand that would sell laptops with 6GB of RAM and then use a 32 bit OS... I'm not going to bother with malware or virus scanning because I'm almost certain that this ain't the issue. It's a brand new computer with no real use.
     
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    then if you want to downgrade to windows 7 I can help
     
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    Ah, you also got Windows Indexing going on. It's supposed to speed up searches but frankly I find it to be a performance killer and an overall pain in the ass in Windows 7 as well. I think the hard drive companies give Redmond a kickback to keep it in since all it does is kill drives particularly SSD drives.

    There are numerous threads on how to kill that service for good. Look among the processes for it and follow these instructions to kill it permanently because it will come back:

    First type: services.msc at the Metro home screen and search will automatically appear with an Apps result. Click the Services icon.

    If you're using Windows 7 or the desktop view in Windows 8, press the Windows Key + R on your keyboard to open the Run dialog. Enter services.msc and click OK.

    The Services window appears. Scroll down, right click on Windows Search and select Properties. Stay on the General tab of the properties windows and change the Startup type entry to Disabled. Click OK to save changes and exit.

    Hope this helps!
     
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    Thanks mate but I didn't follow the above advice as I found the culprit. It was an application called IntelliMemory which is apparently an addon that comes with Samsung laptops and is meant to manage the memory usage. After removing this crap, the laptop started breathing. It now idles at just under 20% memory usage, that being roughly 1GB RAM out of 6GB available (5.9 to be exact).

    I've still got an issue with the hard drive, it's nuts, it fluctuates anywhere between 0 and 80% and often freezes up at 100%.

    You think Windows Indexing could be the culprit of that?