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Will Work For Money... Just Need Some Pointers!

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by snakebite, Dec 31, 2009.

  1. snakebite

    snakebite Newbie

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    Sorry for the long post, but here goes...

    Hey All - I really hope I can get a little help from someone as I feel like I am totally lost.

    For some reason, I can't seem to get my sh*t together with IM. I know that every failure I experience puts me one step closer to success, but jeez - I would have thought I would be done failing by now!

    I am currently working full time, and paying my way through "Internet Marketing" university by studying these forums and taking action almost every night and most weekends. My goal is to be able to do the stereotypical, "quit my day job" and do IM full time, so I am looking to implement some stable money-making IM strategies that I can build upon for years to come rather than "quick hits" (like some e-whoring stuff). I make pretty good money now so I have a ways to go, but heck, at this point, I am almost making nothing - $100/month in IM money would be a VAST improvement over where I am today!

    I have been lurking (and scantily posting) here for a while, and I absolutely love it here, but I think there may be too much info here!

    Anyway, in addition to reading and studying, I have also put several things in place (already taking action), and to date, I have made very little (probably negative) and am starting to wonder how I can get on the right track.

    I have been trying so many things looking for that "spark" of something that I somewhat enjoy, can scale and can make a buck at... but so far... nada!

    Some of the things I have done:

    Adsense/flipping sites:
    Set up about 5-6 of these about 3 months ago (about 5-6 pages each) - did all the KW research (maybe I am not so good at it), promoted them with social bookmarking, built links to the sites, SENuke, etc. To date, one site averages about $2/day this month - the others pennies. The one I am making some money on looks like I got lucky - meaning I am not so sure what I did so right to recreate that and scale it up with other sites.

    Domain Flipping:
    I bought about 25 domains based on local businesses from a method I read about at WF. The domains are something along the lines of http://www.mycityDUI Lawyer.com. The idea was to buy attractive local business type sites, set up quick WP blogs, and then send mass emailings to similiar businesses and ask if they were interested in buying the site. I set them all up, and did one round of emailing with 1 domain and not only did I not get a response, but I found I really didn't like this method as I could not see myself doing this everyday. I have since taken of these domains that gets decent traffic and built a ton of BL's to it and got it to rank top 5 for the desired KW, but I have yet to try and sell it.

    Google Trends:
    Tried SEVERAL rounds of this (creating a quick blog/site based around a volcanic trend and social bookmarking, nuking etc) and got nowhere - in fact, I put so much excitement and energy and sometimes money into this I found this was the most frustrating attempts I made - I really expected to see something from following the ideas laid out for me, but to see nothing was frustrating, and ultimately, I decided this was not a method I would feel comfortable "quitting my day job" for - I am looking for something a little more stable.

    Affiliate Promotion:
    Created 2-3 full featured blogs with unique content articles, targeted KW's based on KW research, promoted affiliate products. Starting to get decent traffic, and getting about 20 clicks a day for one particular campaign, but no sales! I really like this method, as the procedure I have followed is somewhat easy and enjoyable. And I have been outsourcing all of the content creation, etc., so I can scale this to the moon once I get some ROI...

    Bum Marketing:
    Created about 25 articles around same topics/subjects as one of my niche blogs. Each unique article targeted a specific KW, and included some sales copy in the resource box linking to the aff sales page (by way of redirect) as well as a KW anchor link to the same page of my blog built around the same KW. Again, getting a spark of traffic and clicks, but so far no sales. This latest round of 25 articles was accepted by ezine about 3-4 weeks ago. This was a really easy project for me - I outsourced the 25 articles and just submitted them to Ezine - EASY! But no CASH! LOL

    My Own Product:
    I actually have an idea for a site that will allow me to sell my own creation (physical product), as well as some other products that I can get a decent markup on, but I am a bit hesitant about this so far because of state taxes, registering as a business, etc. I like the simplicity of affiliate promotion, but there is probably more money in selling my own stuff.

    MY RESOURCES:
    Hard Work Ethic (I can sleep when I'm dead... may be soon though! J/K)
    Will and Desire to make this work and to Succeed
    Some time - somewhat limited though (See next)
    Money - I do have money to throw at some of these experiments
    Merchant Account - for what it's worth
    Lots of internet experience/know-how


    So there it is... seems to me like I am very close to getting something to spark and start on the real path to making some money and financial independence, BUT... some days it just feels like I am going nowhere.

    Any ideas?
     
  2. malkut81

    malkut81 Newbie

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    Start your own CPA. :D
     
  3. redtide1969

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    Based on your post it sounds like you aren't following through enough with any one thing to find your point of success. Your first method as an example in that you had some profit coming in from a few of the sites but then didn't move forward with it. It's probably not that you did something "right" with the ones that were earning, it's just that certain niches will always perform better than others. It sounds like you were still in the testing phase when you moved onto something else. Just unload the sites that aren't performing and keep building on that plan.

    In this example, you would have gotten to the point where you get a better feel for a profitable niche and have numerous sites pulling $1-$3+ a day.
     
  4. peter2002

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    No offense, but I really don't get you. You are a BHW member since March 2007 and in all that time you didn't find anything that worked for you???

    A post count of only 4 in almost 2 years shows that you never asked any specific questions in regards to some particular money making methods that are shared here. That shows that you never really tried to learn and to dig deeper to fully understand and apply any of those methods. Maybe I am wrong, but that's my opinion.

    You mentioned that you have the strong will and desire to learn, and that you have lots of IM experience/know how. But that's hard to believe, at least to me.

    My advice to you is to pick a money making method (only ONE) you feel most comfortable with and take massive action until you see some positive results. And if you hit the wall at some point, you just ask specific questions in the appropriate forum sections. There will be always BHW members who will then help you.

    Good Luck!
     
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  5. snakebite

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    Redtide - I appreciate the feedback, I have actually been reading a lot of your stuff lately too, and I even went so far as to submit an article to AC just to see how the process works. I am tempted to figure out a way to outsource the creation and submitting of articles to AC, but I am somewhat turned off by the constant effort and energy it seems is required with the article submission, meaning they only pay once and to keep money flowing you have to keep articles flowing - unless I am missing something?

    As for your suggestion, I think you make a good point, and I have felt for a while that I was not spending enough time on any one thing, but more trying a few to see what I liked to do and also if there was some spark.

    With the adsense sites, I guess it just takes time for those things to start producing? And also - I guess I can mix up the adsense on those and add in some banners, etc.
     
  6. dulcolax

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    I started actually applying methods from here 2 weeks after studying back in July. I stopped for 4 months. First I did e-whoring for a bit then CL screwed my whole operation up with that geo crap. I didn't know ANYTHING about IM and honestly that it was a scam and didn't think it was possible. Now I laugh about it. I made $1100 from one CPA offer this week and its a steady flow of $100+ a day. My site is now the 4th result on the first page of google for my keywords. I know thats not a lot for some, but I haven't a dollar to myself in 3 years :/ Find something and scale it up, most important stick with it for a bit instead of skipping around. You will see results and then you will know whether or not it's worth your time, if not move on to the next.
     
  7. snakebite

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    Yeah - I can see how on the surface I look like a bit of a mess!

    I joined a long time ago when I was looking into a few things. Like I mentioned in my post, I already make decent money which has absorbed most of my time for the last few years, and has also diminished my need to spend my off-time making more.

    At the end of the summer this year, I made the decision that I want to be financially independent, and I would like to make my career/business IM, so I really started to put in the time to make that happen just recently.

    As for the posts... well, I guess I don't have many questions about the methods I have read about - I just read the info and try it out. I try to be more interactive, but I just don't have much to say sometimes. I guess I should thank more...

    Anyway - I have long suspected my problem was focus and it seems you are echoing the same sentiment... I really appreciate the feedback!
     
  8. snakebite

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    Thanks for the input... sounds like you are on the right track and in a very short period of time!

    You say you stopped at the end of July for about 4 months... and then just recently started up again? How much time did you/do you spend to get to the steady flow of $100/day? And, the money you say you made this week - is that from CL promoting CPA?
     
  9. PureMind

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    Try youtube marketing.
    Even thought you fail epicly you will always earn some $$$ froom it.
     
  10. snakebite

    snakebite Newbie

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    BTW - thanks for the replies so far... and HAPPY NEW YEAR!

    May 2010 kick the ass of 2009!
     
  11. peter2002

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    Staying not focused is one of the main problems for people starting in IM. Therefore read my advice again!

    I want to add that's more important to look for a first project that fits you best (the easiest, the one you like the best, etc.) than the one you think might be the most profitable.

    Going for the one that shows the fastest success for you will give you the momentum you need to stay motivated and to continue on your road to long lasting IM success.

    I wish you the very best!
     
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  12. dulcolax

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    Honestly, I bought my domain back in July and did some work on it. I left it alone until November and I started getting random checks in the mail. I logged into my affiliate account and I didn't do that since August. I found out that I was getting sales like crazy, crazy to me cuz im a noob :p but anyways, I did remembered that I bought a domain awhile back and had to check my profile to see where all this was coming from. I did a search in Google and was shocked to see my site on the first page of Google. The sales may be coming from there or Youtube, cuz I have some vids linking to my site. I am honestly not sure :/ I am now doing some adult niche stuff that earns me a steady $40 a day, not even trying, on top of my average of $100 a day from my CPA. I am going to scale it by making another site or two with a CPA offer on each and do some SEO this time. I am very surprised that I am making this good of cash so early. You need to stick with something and see what happens with it, just give it some time. It may pay off in the end, you never know.
     
  13. subster

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    In my opinion: You tried to simply much.
    Look, you have a bordered amount of energy for a project you can spend on.
    If you take this energy and spread it over 2.000 Projects nothing you do will be made really good .

    Even if you'd did this projects one after another, its too much.
    Focus on one profitable project, put all your energy on this one and succed.

    Set your targets crystal clear and realistic. Write down what you want to have earned by a project (realistically) till a specified date. Define this project before you start in every single and tiny detail, define it so detailed, that you say, now i really defined everything.

    Then write down a memo of your target in this form:
    e.g.: "I'll realize my project "name" with all necessesaries, so i can live from it from [fill realistic date in] on.

    Write down this sentence (of course your own, with your specific goal) daily and read it three times a day, and read it loud, but let nobody know from your goal (very important!!).

    This will influence your subconsciousness and laser-target your mind on your goals. It really works and it is a proven method.
     
  14. snakebite

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    Thanks Peter!

    I am going to re-read this thread several times for sure.

    I like your point about something that fits me, etc. This is kind of what I have been doing, just that I am actually taking a few steps into it... maybe not such a good idea.
     
  15. snakebite

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    Doing some personal goal and organization work is also something I have been meaning to get started on - this info/advice is right up that alley.

    Thanks for the tips.
     
  16. rytpillager

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    I think you should keep doing this, that one site making $2 is $730/yr.
    you made 5 sites so $800c/yr for all your sites that is $163 a site.

    Keep pumping the sites out dont give up on them yet if 5 sites are making you over $2/day then once you accomplish 50 sites (big goal) & your averaging $25+($9125/yr) your on the right track. Look at the big picture.
     
  17. callmelucid

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    what are you expecting to get from this post?

    putting in effort doesnt mean getting your toes in the water on every method possible. putting in effort is spending weeks pushing yourself and desperately trying to make money out of a method and building from there once you start making money.
     
  18. snakebite

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    Thanks buddy - I guess when you put it that way, it makes sense... I just figured that one site might have been a fluke, and because it took so long to see any money come from the efforts (about 2 months), I was really hesitant to go ape-sh*t and build a ton of those sites over the next months with the hopes that I get a gem here and there.
     
  19. snakebite

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    Well - I guess I am looking for advice from people who have been there/done that... and your advice seems good to me - thank you.
     
  20. dsnking

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    if you are interested, you can work your way to retirement using adsense residual income. I can give u some pointers if you are interested. :)