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Will this cause a duplicate content penalty or any sort of penalty at all?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by turdface, Feb 14, 2013.

  1. turdface

    turdface Supreme Member

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    Say I have two sites.

    Site 1 is pretty developed and has a lot of content.

    Site 2 is brand new.

    I want to take some of the content from Site 1 and put it on Site 2, but I am going to remove the content from Site 1 when I do it. So the content will never exist on both sites at the same time.

    Will that cause Google to become suspicious for any reason?
     
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  2. vodkaiceland

    vodkaiceland Newbie

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    definetely not, I already did it but use 301 and let it some months before you close the old site...
     
  3. turdface

    turdface Supreme Member

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    I don't want to close the old sites, I just want to move some of the content from the old site to the new site.
     
  4. FatSteve

    FatSteve Regular Member

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    Site #2 wont rank good for those posts.

    However, you can do one simple thing - do a content curation on those posts you want to move to site #2 - add few unique sentences to each with some sort of opinion or explanation/etc, this will definitely improve the situation and will be way faster than rewriting/getting new stuff.

    As of duplicate penalties - no, this is just content syndication, it will get indexed but it wont rank as good as "original source".

    I have been doing this a lot - picking up money site post, adding few spun lines of text with generic link and blasting to web2.0's - no problems at all and beats the superspun/scraped automated junk content by far.

    Hope it helps.
     
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  5. turdface

    turdface Supreme Member

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    So are you saying because Google recognizes that the content was originally on Site 1, even though it is no longer on Site 1 anymore, it won't rank as well on Site 2?
     
  6. FatSteve

    FatSteve Regular Member

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    Exactly, G fixed that I think in early 2012. Content still getting indexed but I think G knows the "origin" or where this stuff first appeared.
     
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    jayrat14 Senior Member

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    Exactly.......True..
     
  8. turdface

    turdface Supreme Member

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    I'm not sure I understand the purpose behind that update.

    If the content is no longer on the original site, what's to say the new site isn't now just as relevant for that content as the old site was?

    If the content was on both sites, then yes, I would agree the first site should get preferential treatment.

    But when the content still exists only on one site, the content is still just as relevant as it was before.

    Here's an example.

    Say I ran a site and had a section devoted to my hilarious comedy stories called "turdface's funny stories."

    When someone searches for "turdface's funny stories," my site shows up at the top of the SERPs.

    In the future, I decide I want to take my site in a different direction and display my art rather than my stories. My stories are so funny, though, that I decide to put them on a separate site, so I do, and I remove them from my original site.

    Now when someone searches for "turdface's funny stories," my new site is now the most relevant result for that term. After all, they're not even on my old site anymore so that site is no longer relevant for that search. My new site is relevant.
     
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  9. tranza

    tranza Power Member

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    Are you using your moneysite content together with spun content in your web 2.0 , this would be like somebody else have read your website and give his opinion about your post?
     
  10. Techxan

    Techxan Elite Member

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    You should leave it on site one and use it on site two as well, especially if they are hosted in different places.

    If you remove the content from the first site, it will loose the ranking for that keyword, and lose PR and general ranking along with it. Never remove content from a site that is established and ranking, you can damage the site.

    Google will not care that the content was on the original site one bit (or fr that matter 100 or 1 million sites, it doesn't matter at all), and the second site can easily outrank the original site, if you build a better site than the original site.

    If you are really freaking out over this just give credit on site two for the original source, and the content will be "curated", which Google loves.

    There is no need to remove the origuinal conent at all,unless you just want to.



     
  11. FatSteve

    FatSteve Regular Member

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    Yes, try feeding it into GSA/Senuke SN module, add bit of spun editorial stating something like "I {found} this {article|post|blog post|site} and just {want|wanted} to share it with {you|you guys} {because|cause} {in my opinion|I believe} it is fantastic {post|information|info} about <a href="youriste">{spun keywords}</a>! Enjoy the {article|post|blog post|original article}

    You get the idea....

    works wonders and you dont have to spam the poo from scrapers. Makes a lot of things easier.
     
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  12. SEO20

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    Just 301 redirect - that's what it's created for.
     
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    IMO even if you install WMT Google will become suspicious, so I wouldn't worry too much about that part. As far as best practices are concerned I agree with seo20 that a 301 redirect is the best course of action, not only will you be protecting yourself from duplicate content penalties but all of the links naturally built to those posts will (for the most part) be passed onto your new site.
     
  14. FatSteve

    FatSteve Regular Member

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    Idea was not to kill site 1 and build site 2 but to keep both sites and share some of the posts....

    IMHO I have been using my method for last 2 years and not only to share stuff between sites but building links as well. Works good.

    If you wanted just to move one site to another - ye, 301 and off you go but that is not the case here as far as I understand.

    So I stand by my words. Syndicate stuff, add bits of editorial comments and you will be fine.
     
  15. boitus

    boitus Registered Member

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    Use a 301 redirect or you can also try to spin the content you already have. Then you will have brand new content!
     
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    Yeah, you won't get hit with penalties because it's not duplicate content if the articles aren't in two places at once. It's still your content, you're just moving it around. But I agree that it won't get the same juice as it did when it was first posted, so the "content curation" idea is a good one. Add a little here and there, spruce it up and you have a new article which should still rank pretty well.