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Will this already deleted domain still hold its weight and pass on its high PR Backlinks?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Crack A Smile, Mar 12, 2014.

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  1. Crack A Smile

    Crack A Smile Newbie

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    I have found a PR6 website that links to a lot of websites and several of them are not currently registered. Some because the linking website misspelled the domain name, and some because the owners let them go.

    1) If I register the domain and 301 it to my moneysite, will the PR6 link still count in Google?
    Or was the link devalued when Google realised the website never-existed/closed?

    2) If the link still can pass on the PR6 and I register a few domains all with the same backlink from the same PR6 domain, will 301ing them all to the same moneysite add anything more then 301ing just one of them? As in does Google realise all the 301's are using the same link and therefore its pointless to 301 more then one of them to the same site?

    Cheers for your help guys.
     
  2. PingPong DingDong

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    I would also like to know the answer to this question.
     
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  3. Crack A Smile

    Crack A Smile Newbie

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    Nobody with any tips?
     
  4. nikiobicata

    nikiobicata Regular Member

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    1) type this in google site:domainname.com and see if it still indexed in google. If not wright one 500 word article and install WP to this domain and wait for google to indexed the site again. Then make the 301 redirect. If the website is still indexed you can just go and do the redirect.
     
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  5. Crack A Smile

    Crack A Smile Newbie

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    It isnt indexed in Google and thats because the site has been unregistered for a long time. Are you saying that to awaken the old links Google first has to see the site live again before you 301?
     
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    This is what i do. I always create site first and indexed it and then the redirect. This way google things is the same "old" website and it was down for theme changes :)
     
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  7. Crack A Smile

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    Right, i get you. Thanks for your advice!
     
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    Google models the internet as pages connected by backlinks. Does the page currently exist? No. Are the high PR links to it still there? Yes. Then make a site on the domain. Now the page does exist and once it's indexed again, it passes linkjuice from from high PR links going to it. Yippee, SEO.

    Also remember that Google has its own private 'PageRank' and that the toolbar PageRank you see is only a representation of what that page's PR was at the last public update. Just because it currently says PR0 for a new page doesn't mean it's worthless. Does a page have an existing PR6 backlink going to it? Then once it's indexed again it will be a PR4 and pass its own link juice, regardless of the toolbar PageRank.
     
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  9. danilinho79

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    No solution... But i'm trying
     
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  10. Crack A Smile

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    Its just that I had a site that I bought with great backlinks and it was penalised because an SEO guy abused it although its backlink profile is still great. When I got the manual penalty removed by saying I just bought it blah blah blah, I rebuilt the site using the Way Back Machine. After a month, I redirected to my money site. THERE WAS NO CHANGE. It appears that during a manual penalty, Google can discount the backlinks to be used again as the website is now finished.

    My worry is that they do this with old dead domains that are no longer registered as well. Can you prove one way or another?
     
  11. Biznik

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    What you described does work. Try it for yourself and test. Register a bunch of deleted domains with good links & link/301 to your main site.
     
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    Crack A Smile Newbie

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    Think you're right, the only way to know is to just to do it! Cheers.
     
  13. Crack A Smile

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    Anyone know if multiple 301's from domains with the same backlinks are of any more use then just one of them?
     
  14. EditProfile

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    Well yes obviously a page/domain with a manual webspam penalty will retain it even when deleted. I was referring to deleted domains that were never penalised.
     
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  15. Crack A Smile

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    Right, I was just making a comparison and wondering, I understand they are different.
     
  16. SteveWaller

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    A 301 is the easiest and simplest method but it gives you no control over relevancy so my preferred method is to actually build out a small site on such a domain so that the content and anchor text are under my control. Some people call this a private blog network ;) but it certainly takes a LOT more time and effort than 301ing.
     
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  17. Crack A Smile

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    The truth is that these sites sometimes have no other incoming links other then this PR6 page and the anchor text is the domain itself. So it really is a nicheless link. I have got about 10 of them, wonder if they are worth anything to sell them.