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Will networks ban me for this???

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by satyawrat, Jul 11, 2009.

  1. satyawrat

    satyawrat Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    I am working with adsmarket.com
    I have cropped a email submit which will pay for 1st page mail submit!

    The next page has address to be filled up, but as i have cropped the offer nobody will fill their address.

    The iframe is 110% working and will not leak the referrer!

    i Will be getting something around 40-50 submits/day!

    What are the chances of getting banned?? :confused::confused:
     
  2. PepsiGuy

    PepsiGuy Registered Member

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    Oh, really? That's odd because I've framed numerous offers without mixing in legit traffic at all. I made over $1k with a single offer, and all the advertiser did was question where the traffic was coming from. A week or so later I got taken off the offer, but I still got paid ;)
     
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  3. XG911

    XG911 Regular Member

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    Yeah, get paid once, then banned if you continue.

    $1,000 x 1 Pay Day < $100 x 40 Pay Days
     
  4. PepsiGuy

    PepsiGuy Registered Member

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    Yeah okay, I pushed a lot of volume for continuous months with one network and didn't get banned so try again.
     
  5. crisis23

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    yea it will get your ass ban.. and networks can detect now is something fishy is goin on
     
  6. singingsleep

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    If you're so sure of yourself, why are you getting defensive over the honest, helpful answers you're getting? If it's not converting at ALL, EVER, it's not gonna last. That's common sense. If you've pushed a lot of volume for months that didn't EVER convert you should probably stick with that network.

    If the people can't even get to the form to fill in info, it's 100% not going to convert on the back end for them. That's not gonna make you look good, for sure.

    You've got to think out of the box. Being able to mask referrer is the hardest part, kudos on figuring it out. Now incent the traffic, and try to harvest traffic somewhat relative to the niche that may convert once in a while. Give the people a reason to need to fill out that offer in its entirety. Email submits are work, same as everything else. I tried my hand at it and failed miserably but learned enough to know that I should have just listened to what everyone else at BHW had to say about it. There's no cutting corners.
     
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  7. PepsiGuy

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    I'm not trying to get defensive lol. I just wanted to make it clear that you CAN get away with framing in volume. Masking the referrer really isn't hard at all, I posted a nice setup here: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...es/75084-cj-com-twitter-leads.html#post717457. I wasn't framing regular email submits, I was framing short form Biz-Opps, and I know once you opt-in to those they send you a shitload of emails, so it is possible that some of the traffic converted via email. Anyway, once again I wasn't trying to be defensive about anything, was just trying to point out that you can frame in volume and get paid.

    -PepsiGuy
     
  8. heiny

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    If I had an email submit and some donut sent over 1000 "leads" but none of them converted I'd withhold payment and shave that motherf*cker back into hell. Also I'd also take my anger out on other legit people, so thank your selfish-self for f'ing it up for other people :)
     
  9. PepsiGuy

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    No problem, go fuck yourself :)

    Thanks.
     
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  10. heiny

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    I sincerely hope you don't get paid.
     
  11. jake3340

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    Get around 30 networks, rotate forms and try keep it to around 2$ - 4$ a day on each network. At the end of the month you will have a better chance of getting paid since the payout will be like 60$ on each network. And that wont raise any red flags.
     
  12. wowhaxor

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    Sprinkle in some legit traffic, a few real people go a long way toward not being banned if you keep your $$ level low and spread it over a bunch of networks.

    Like you say you are doing 50 leads a day iframed. Well then try to get like 5 a day legit ones (dude thats nothing it will take you two minutes) split it up over 5 networks = 10 iframed and 1 legit, thats not a bad ratio and your $$ amount will be low so you'll probably get paid.
     
  13. cypionate

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    Umm... Now is that very nice?

    Cyp
     
  14. 420money

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    I have a spinoff question -

    What if you were to generate a lot of leads for a one page submit offer? How could you tell if it were to actually convert for the network? Or is the trick with the 1 field email submits and not doing anything beyond that?

    Sorry if that doesnt make sense, I'm just a bit confused here.