Ok here is what I want to do: make a couple of websites like blogs or whatever and make 1 big whitehat website. On these websites I want to put just a bit of text maybe some ads and links to affiliates but whats most inportent on all of them is a link to my white hat site. Now I want to use everything as black hat as possible to blast these little sites pagerank to the top wich if I am correct will result that my whitehat site also will have a higher pagerank. Then if my pagerank is that high I can link trade with other big whitehat sites that have a high pagerank and I hope they will accept it!! But lets say these little sites all get de-indexed by google will my whitehat site also be in trouble or will only the pagerank go down again? Hope I explained my idea well enough!