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Will my IP Get Banned or Site Get Sandboxed? What Can Happen? Bad Strategy? Help!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by volkovm1, Nov 14, 2011.

  1. volkovm1

    volkovm1 Newbie

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    Hi BHW,

    This is my first thread. I'd like to thank everyone that regularly contributes for all the useful info on this forum. I have been lurking for some time, and have used CASHs blueprint to promote my site.

    Everything seems to be working well, accept today I get this random phone call from some guy, claiming that I was "SPAMMING" the "INTERNET" and he provided me with an email address that was used to do this.

    He claimed that he was submitting my IP to get blacklisted and the email address as well. (something about akismet registry) On top of that, the a$$ goes on my google places page and leaves a ranting review about how all of my previous reviews were also spam and that my company is a known "spammer".

    The email address I could care less about, but the IP has me worried. What are the reporcussions for me and my moneysite? Can it get sandboxed/penalized, etc? I believe this info would be useful for many users. (I searched numerous threads, but I'm still concerned)

    Background info:

    I use the following tools: TBS, AMR, SENuke X and Scrapebox.

    I use them in the following manner:

    write an article and spin (3 sentence versions plus spin "favorites)-> submit with SENuke X to all web 2.0 pointing back to money site -> submit article to AMR pointing back to web2.0 and moneysite -> make a list of live websites and "spam" them through Scrapebox (about 20K success, never back to moneysite directly). Also I create RSS feed and ping it of the live links.

    I use proxies in SENuke (the ones they provide) and I use Scrapebox proxies that I find online (not the ones provided in scrapebox) and do not use proxies with AMR.

    I'm concerned because anyone can see that these are basically link pyramids, so although I use proxies, wouldn't a manual review still screw me? Can my site get blacklisted/sandboxed? What is the difference if any? Am I doing something wrong with this strategy?

    I own a brick and mortar store and trying to get my site ranked for a few national highly competative keywords and am currently on pages 3-5 for some of them. The domain is about a year old and I have been using this strategy for the last 3-5 months, (started using scrapebox just a month ago).
     
  2. volkovm1

    volkovm1 Newbie

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    Someone pleaseeeeeeeeeeee help :(
     
  3. Moogle!

    Moogle! Regular Member

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    No, just ignore him.
     
  4. bobgoe

    bobgoe Power Member

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    I think he is a scammer trying to blackmail you , Just ignore him
     
  5. volkovm1

    volkovm1 Newbie

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    Thanks for the fast responses,

    But how does the whole blacklist/sandbox process work? Which IP can he submit to get blacklisted (the IP from spam addresses or from my money site)? Is this even possible?

    How can he scam me?

    What about my site getting a manual review? If I'm using proxies I should be fine right?

    I think answers to these questions would be valuable to others as well as myself.. all input is greatly appreciated
     
  6. volkovm1

    volkovm1 Newbie

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    anyone? someone?
     
  7. boosters

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    I think either he is one of your friend who is black bastard or they are your competitors. Never listen to those, nobody will call you regarding this matter. Don't need to worry about that.

    But for security use Private Proxy or VPN service to hide your real IP from those spammers.

    Also make sure don't blast too much from scrapebox, i mean 500 links per day is okay but if you reached 10000 links than google must be think about you are spammer. I hope you will be understood.
     
  8. volkovm1

    volkovm1 Newbie

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    boosters, thanks for your input.

    When the guy called, I knew that it wasn't a friend and when I asked him what business or website he owned, he wouldn't tell me, just kept saying that "spamming is wrong"... so this made me suspicious that he was a competitor..

    but I still want to know if I am at any risk... because with minimal research, anyone can figure out:

    1) where all the links eventually lead back to
    2) the ip address of my moneysite

    anyone?
     
  9. bhstudent

    bhstudent Junior Member

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    I think is a scammer or a competitor
     
  10. poziko

    poziko Junior Member

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    That all sounds really strange. Somebody is trying to blackmail you. If he ever calls again, tell him that you will report him to the police for threatening and blackmailing you. How can he get your ip blacklisted? It just does not sound real.
     
  11. volkovm1

    volkovm1 Newbie

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    that is what I though, what ip address would he blacklist anyways? the ip from the emails being sent out, the ip from my money site? i have no idea... and how would you blacklist it or submit it to google? anyone have a clue about how someone would actually achieve this...

    I just want to use this thread as an example to others about what could potentially happen to their site as well as mine...

    SEO Experts?
     
  12. volkovm1

    volkovm1 Newbie

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    Does anyone else have any ideas? This guy sent me another email saying there were more spam links online and that that all my blog comments are going to get classified as spam and get my site sandboxed... can this even happen if I'm using proxies?

    How would you guys approach this?

    It's kind of ridiculous that he basically went on my google places account and spammed his own comments as fake reviews saying that my website spams and scams people.. legal action?
     
  13. mattcash

    mattcash Newbie

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    Were you using any micro work site to get reviews for your business?
    If you did... did you screw over any of the workers?
    We tend to not like having our cash flows squeezed when people don't pay for work we've done. Enough that I've made some phone calls in the past - though this doesn't sound like me, I'm not that nice.
     
  14. Moogle!

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    IP's get banned from akismet when a dozen of websites mark your comment as spam, this won't be a problem if you use proxies, do you?

    Even if it does get blacklisted/banned, it won't affect your site in the SERPS.

    Also, these is a very slim chance that google would actually penalise you if he reports your site on G webmaster tools for comment spam.

    I really wouldn't worry about it dude, just don't talk to him anymore.
     
  15. Moogle!

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    btw how did he get your phone number? do you have private whois?
     
  16. volkovm1

    volkovm1 Newbie

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    mattcash
    -the only reviews until now have been on google places and were ALL left by legitimate customers... i work very hard to maintain my reputation

    moogle!
    -i use free proxies from random sites and occasionally the ones that are in scrapebox. the only thing i don't use proxies for is AMR. i don't have a private whois, can this be changed? Either way, it would not be hard to follow the links and see they all eventually lead back to the site which has a phone number posted in big letter on it
     
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  17. Diplomat

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    Well, the first think you should say when you get this kind of phone call "fck off".
    Also why do you even use your own phone number when you are spamming?

    Also you can say that somebody else did it :) Use proxies when you spam, hide your personal information, whois protection etc.

    So funny, I would like to get that kind of phone calls. I have never got them. :/
     
  18. volkovm1

    volkovm1 Newbie

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    I have my company phone number on my moneysite only.. I don't send out spam with my phone number, so I'm not sure what else I can do.. I just don't need this a$$ damaging my site
     
  19. meatro

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    The IP he's talking about is one of your proxies. Let him report them to Akismet. Let him report your site to Google, too. You know how many of my competitors I've reported, and how many have actually been penalized?

    I have one competitor who does NOTHING but paid blogroll and pageroll links. I reported each of his links separately and I've never heard a thing about it and he's still up.

    How many pissed off bloggers do you suppose Google hears from every HOUR? Probably thousands or even tens of thousands. Out of all of those, why would they respond to one who has one complaint from one angry blogger?

    Tell that loser to get a life or you'll report him for harassment, explain that you could easily file a lawsuit for libel as a result of him going online and tarnishing your business' good name. Tell him you'll report HIS website and his mother for spamming and every IP he's ever even used, starting with 1.1.1.1 and ending with 127.0.0.1.

    I dunno. Have fun with it, you have an angry blogger calling your phone, that sounds like a riot to me.

    (Also, please, never spam comment links to your money site. Spam them to your off site blog and link that to your money site. That way, if Google were to penalize you, they'd penalize your stupid off site blog and you might lose a couple spots. Not lose your website being indexed, period.)
     
  20. volkovm1

    volkovm1 Newbie

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    Thanks Meatro, that eases my mind a bit. I basically just sent him an email before reading this post that it will be my last correspondence, that any further communication will be regarded as harassment.

    Just pisses me off what a hypocrite this a$$ is. He tells me to stop spamming and to adhere to googles TOS and then goes on my google places page with fake accounts, SPAMS them with BS reviews, and therefore also breaks googles TOS.

    useless human being