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Will IM still be profitable in a decade? In a century? Food for thought.

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by loveiswar12, Sep 3, 2011.

  1. loveiswar12

    loveiswar12 Junior Member

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    What's your opinion on BH marketing in a decade? Will it still be lucrative?

    Do you think it'll still bring in the dough in 10 years? 100 years?


    This is long, so hit back if you're impatient.

    Do you think it's gonna get harder and harder to make this "business" lucrative in the future? I've heard all sorts of things going on that are anti-BH...like G changing their algorithm and blocking out low quality micro niche sites, .cc's being deindexed, CPA networks getting more advanced at preventing fraud, YT making it harder to spam, etc.

    Something so simple can wipe out a whole field of IM. Let's say Firefox comes with noscript (script blocker) pre-installed in the future. And let's say Joe is into iframes. His whole income is based off of iframing offers. If this plugin were to be released with Firefox, Joe would be screwed (as it blocks XSS). 40% of the US population uses Firefox, so how much would that hurt poor Joe? A lot.

    If the US economy rolls into another downhill fall, people may resort to IM out of desperation. That means more competition for us, which can't be a good thing.

    Then there's also other competition from people jumping into IM. As you know, when a method is shared here it gets saturated like hell. And that's just from the current state. As BHW or any other IM related site gets more popular, that only means more competition.

    The 'net wasn't popular when I was growing up. During the first half of my life I didn't even know how to use a computer. Today we have 7-year-olds using Facebook. The new generation is more 'net-savvy. They know to avoid ads. They know to avoid surveys. They have a sixth sense for a scam or a BS website. We already have so many noobs (and growing) screwing up new methods and making them useless and saturated ("JR. VIP THIS NOW!!11!1!"), so they will make new methods even harder to work into the new generation.

    Notice all the threads with noobs wanting to be spoonfed recently? We really need to restrict who can join or who can view the site content. There was a thread about making new members take a test before joining back then. I thought this was a horrible idea back then, but now I fully support it.


    I'm know I'm being pessimistic (and maybe paranoid), but this is something I've wondered about since the beginning. I'm not even close to being an IM guru, as I've just started myself not too long ago. I wonder what will be the future of BH IM. BH tactics are usually short-term, so what about BH itself?

    Thoughts? Thanks for reading.
     
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  2. Remington

    Remington Regular Member

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    A decade? Sure. There's a lot of life left in it. N00b saturation comes and goes. People were saying the same things a decade ago that you are now. Once things pick up, the peasants will go back in their factories where they belong and we'll be able to get back to selling them crap.

    A century? Almost certainly not. It'll be an obsolete relic, just like most of the things from 100 years ago are now.

    As for black hat, though, that's been around since the dawn of humanity and it'll be here until the end. It just takes different forms to keep up with the prevailing technology.
     
  3. Mosquera

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    Due to the 2.0 evolution and the lot of use of javascript for so many websites (twitter, facebook, etc.) I very much doubt NoScript is going to get installed by default. I use it anyway, because enabling only those webs you usually use is a good deal to give you more security and less spam, but I doubt it's going to be installed in every browser.
    Maybe something like that but with a blacklist integrated.

    And as for people that click ads - there will probably always be people that are interested in the stuff you promote so chances are that will stay the same, although you make a point in the fact that there are many people from older generations that might be eager to click in these ads. Note that not every people are computer savvy.
     
  4. Roparadise

    Roparadise BANNED BANNED

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    I think the money will be in creating authority websites,and better products. More and More money will be spent on the internet over the next decade.
     
  5. ezlegion

    ezlegion Senior Member

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    The rise in the cost of physical travel is relative to the growth of cyberspace :)
     
  6. silentthunder

    silentthunder Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Cat and mouse will never go out of style. And no one can see all the technologies to come. Technologies buried in the minds of members of this forum,
    or even in the deep net waiting to explode into these here "interwebs" that will change our lives as much as smartphones, quad core pcs, xrumer & the VPS did. The bigger the net they make to catch bh'ers the more holes in the net. :cool2:
     
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  7. Monrox

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    Look, at the lowest level BH only makes sense in getting rid of the competition. If you own the only website in the whole world about paternity tests, you wouldn't need to game any search engine. They will give you the number one spot.

    Secondly, the whole ad blocking stuff is irrelevant if you are prepared to remove the middle man. If a user wants to buy, you may as well sell to him directly.

    For example ClickBank: you promote a product. Instead of offering a link to the sales page, you have a buy now button. When the user clicks on it, your system goes to the seller, buys the product with your own money, then gives it to the user and takes his money. You can even inflate the price if you like; no law forbids us from buying low and selling high. No more hops went lost, cheats by the vendor etc. etc. If the buyer then asks for a refund you too ask for a refund.
     
  8. Troshi

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    It will continue to evolve just like it has every single year since it started. As long as you go with the flow and don't put all your hope into 1 method, I don't think IM will die. Surely in 100 years it will be a thing of the past, but there will definitely be some way of sharing information and marketing products virtually, if its still called the internet then, we won't know.
     
  9. heavyweight

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    I don't care what will happen I can always work at McDonalds :D :D :D
     
  10. Windmill

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    I suspect IM will be outdated in a decade. The internet will change beyond recognition, technology moves so fast. Lesson to all: save now instead of spending.
     
  11. heavyweight

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    IM will be NEVER outdated. Whether i spend it now or spend it later its the same thing
     
  12. Autumn

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    In ten years we'll all be either plugging in to the matrix with sockets in the back of our heads, or living in grass huts and eating each other for food. BH SEO as we know it now will be a long forgotten irrelevance.
     
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  13. mccullum

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    That is why i think affiliate marketing is the way to go. Becoming more net savvy and blocking the ads? Possible but i would not say likely. But what if the ads are within the content? As part of the content promoting and recommending products? That is a real good, strong way to make money, isn't it? A think affiliate site is always better than a thin affiliate site or a site that is made for a contextual ad network.
     
  14. AGSniper

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    I don't think IM itself is not going away in 10 years unless the entire world wide web is replaced by something more superior. Sure, it'll evolve to something new and there might not be Google, but there will be some type of replacement, and we would adapt to the new platform and market with it. Think about it.. marketing is not going to go away.
     
  15. mhatter

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    Internet marketing will never die as long as there is the Internet and people are allowed to sell stuff online.