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Will Google Ever Get it Right?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by greggggg, May 20, 2011.

  1. greggggg

    greggggg Regular Member

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    So I know people have been hit hard by panda but also other peoples legitimate sites have also been affected. I'm new to all this but from my knowledge there are different types of links, so if some get less valuable that means others get more valuable. Will google every find the right balance and make it impossible for someone to game the system? Or is there always going to be a Black hat Way?
     
  2. jlei523

    jlei523 Regular Member

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    There will always be Black Hat but it's going to get tougher and tougher. Google is a great company and very smart.

    They will eventually squeeze the Black Hatters until most of them give in and high quality legit sites.
     
  3. dotthei

    dotthei Regular Member

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    The problem is that nobody knows what "high quality" really means. It means something different to everyone. Matt Cutts is way too vague about what high quality means. If the site is based around a product, is it supposed to contain reviews, or just general information? How constant is the content supposed to be updated, or does it even need to be updated? What entails high content on a blog? Does it mean having well-written content, because not everyone is an amazing writer. What kind of linking structure is supposed to be present in the on-site SEO...and what kind of backlinks is the site supposed to have?
     
  4. jhonson5

    jhonson5 Power Member

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    Lets see what happens. I guess it is right in the consequence.
     
  5. zebracross

    zebracross Registered Member

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    If the guy who decide a spam or not a spam then filter it by the quality can't really tells the definition of "Quality" how can a programer ever create a bot that can judge the quality? Probably the current panda update is giving the "HIGH QUALITY SPAM" higher place, but who knows? I means that's only goo insider would ever know? And that's a hush-hush. But judging from my experience from their current serp now, it's only give some old autoblog better place. My WH site completely vanish buried with such zombie blog. But fortunately it's not get kicked too far away. Don't really know what to say about the current update, still feel "down" coz I lost 30%+ of my organic traffic. And it doesn't feels god to be on the loosing side.
     
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  6. DamageX

    DamageX Elite Member

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    People keep inventing better mousetraps every day. Google has to keep up with that and break as few eggs as possible while making its omelet. I don't think they'll ever catch up.
     
  7. donduck

    donduck Junior Member

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    as far as google is concerned they think they have it right
     
  8. partymarty4870

    partymarty4870 Elite Member

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    every day the internet gets bigger - therefore every day G's job gets harder. They are constantly playing catchup.

    they've got to keep earning shitloads of $$$ to keep going, and a very large part of their team is concentrating on earning those $$$.

    So I think IM is here to stay, and that means there will always be Blackhat.

    Every so often they'll do a major change that cleans alot of crap out of their results, and sometimes that will take out legitamate sites. But it's all a big circle, new methods will be found, new IMers will rise to tthe top.

    As long as it's an algorithm that decides positions and not an actual human (which is impossible) the system will always be open to manipulation - thats a simple fact.

    i know it sounds corny, but remember the Matrix - computer code has rules - it always has to, it can't work without it. The human mind works differently, so we will always win.
     
  9. moromete

    moromete Junior Member

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    Yes partymarty, it's just like in the matrix. A computer code can't think "outside of the box" , we human can. Google is adapting the algorithm code based on what we do and not vice versa .
     
  10. wokaka

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    I think google is trying to hit people who use automaton service, that include link wheel and the likes. I have noticed that it only affects some keywords though...i have site that constantly rank at #4 and another site that actually went up from #13 to #11. My main money site, however, has dropped from #1 to #11....

    I dont know why but my link building techniques have been the same for all of them (yet they show different results). I think it's contextual link in spammy blogs work the best nowadays. Several affiliate sites that put their links in-content inside blog networks now conquer my keywords. Some of those blog posts arent related at all to his niche but he still get good results. This is actually another form of spamming so yeah black hat is still there, it's just changing.