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Why its hard for you to make money on the internet! (real money, not chump change)

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by gb5000, Jan 3, 2012.

  1. gb5000

    gb5000 Regular Member

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    Its really easy to get cault up in the fantasy of "quick money" and "easy work" in the IM world.

    I beleive that most noobs come here into the IM world to escape from the real world of business, hard work, and slow income.

    Truth note: their is no escape!

    Most of you have dreams of sitting on your ass, doing nothing, partying all night, and pressing a few buttons and watching the money flow in. Some of you are more modest and want to be able to support your family's without having to kiss ass for little in return.

    If your honest with yourselves, that what most of you want, correct?

    Its the reason why threads like (I make 3k a week, heres my method) gets over 10k views in less then 2 weeks.

    Its so easy to sell you guys the dream that alot of members "in the know" do exactly that, and exploit your pockets to the max. You don't even realize it, as you get drowned in positive talk like "Don't give up" and "your not working hard enough" and the most famous one, "use a twist" on a saturated method.

    You see guys here posting their success stories of them making "hundreds a day" or "thousands a month", some make that in a day.

    But for some reason, most of you can't make over a few dollars a day, say maybe 20 or 30 bucks, if that.

    And, let be honest, you really want to be the one making that amount of bank, don't you? You envy people like us who actually do make a full time living on IM alone.

    So you vow to put more time into your niche, more time building backlinks, more this, more that. But you constantly run into roadblocks. Or your income dosen't go up as much as you'd hope.

    Whats going on?

    To start off 2012 right, I figure I'd help you get sober on the reality of internet marketing instead of helping your already existing habit of being drunk off the fantasy of quick internet riches. Because based off the daily threads, questions, and feedback from most of the members here, 98% of you STILL are not making the money you'd hope you would when you first started this shit.

    Here's a list of things to consider in your journey into this IM field:

    1. DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE!!!

    Atleast not until you've seen REAL proof. And by real, I mean bank statements, teamview logins into CPA accounts, etc.

    Your addiction to the "IM riches fantasy" is partially based off of your belief that most guys here with stars by there name are somehow better off then you are. But unless you meet these guys in person and see their bank statements, car that is REGISTERED IN THEIR NAME and not on a lease, IRS files showing that yes, so and so really DID make all that money from a CPA network or website and not some side job he conveniently forgot to post, take every "money made" post here with a grain of salt.

    This is the internet, which gets its appeal and power from its since of anonymity. Unless you meet these guys (including me) in person, I could be telling you the biggest lie and you would never know it. And trust me, your not as smart as you think you are, anyone can be fooled (see the Eric Creed scam for an example of this).

    So take a "guilty until proven innocent" stance on these forums. It will save you ALOT of heartache.

    2. Stop looking for the easy way out!

    Most noobs here are SOOOOOOOO predictable. You guys go for the easiest, most "proven" way of making money. You don't consider the fact that those guys posting those money making methods have been doing IM for months or years, you just think they jumped in and wala, money in tha bank!

    You want to make "bank" just like them, just as easily as they did, so you follow there advise.

    But something funny happens: You make a little bit of bank, but can't make even a 1/3 of what the orginal poster of that method made, which is why you tried the method in the first place. Why is that?

    Well, its a little thing called competition theory. Basically, the more competition you have in a given Field, the harder it is to get to the top of that field. So in a nut shell, you try joe blows method, get all those free or "cracked" tools he recommends, or buys his "software" that makes things easier for you, and yet, still can't make enough to quit your day job. Then, over time, it gets harder and harder to continue implementing that method and various unforeseen events occur (spam filters, CPA bannings, etc) and your off searching for the next method because this one became alot harder then you thought it would be.

    The scenario above has happened over and over and over and over and.........



    OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER............

    Until a year has passed and by golly, you still don't have any stable income coming in. Maybe a few hundred here and there, but not enough to challenge ahelted to a Car showoff contest.

    You have to come to the realization that this field takes alot of dedication. Alot more then you thought it would at the beginning.

    But lets just say, that this fairy tale of "lazy riches" was true. How do we get to that? I mean, come on GB5000, those "success stories" can't all be lies, right?

    If your thinking this, then surprise, I agree with you.

    I do think there is a way to sit back and make money with very little hands on work. How would you do that?

    3. STOP GOING AFTER SATURATED NICHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    CL, FB, Autoblog review sites, MOVIE CONTENT LOCKERS, etc.

    Heres the truth: The guys who are making REAL money in these niches did it WAAAAYYYYYY before you even knew what it was, got in the game way before someone decided to post about it here exposing the niche, and now have the experience that most new comers don't have.

    Was it easy for them in the beginning? Well ofcourse, because nobody knew what it was. The market was not widely wise to the tactics, there wasn't much choice in the field, and hence, more customers and more money.

    EASY, REAL MONEY!!

    And then you guys came, the first of which made thousands, then after those guys came the "hundred dollars a week" crowd, then after those guys came the "hundred dollars a month crowd" and so on and so forth.

    In this field, the statement of "early bird catches the worm" is the truest and purist form of advise anyone can give you if your looking to make those "lazy dollars".

    Most of you guys coming in, are the LATE COMERS!! And your bank accounts reflects this truth.

    Its the reason why I've been stating, since near the beginning of my membership here, that the greatest cause of Internet Marketers hard times are not about "not working hard enough". Its simply because you guys keep choosing markets which have been exploited to death, and expect to make the same money that was made when the market was in its infancy.

    AND.....You keep talking and bragging and posting about them as well, inviting MORE competition which chips away at your income over time.

    Which brings me to my last and final point:

    4. When you find something that works, KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT!!!!!!!!!

    Loose lips really do sink profits.

    I'll give you an example:

    When I first started saying this, I cault ALOT of heat from some members here about my stance on things. At the time, CL (the market I started with in my IM career) was still relatively easy as their was no PVA account systems and spam filters were not very stringent. People were still making money, and still bragging about it and encouraging other members to do the same. So to a lot of members here, I was just sprouting paranoia and didn't know what I was talking about. Besides, "CL dosen't even read BHW (I beleive one response said to me inquiry). Even if they try to stop us, we'll always find away around whatever they put up."

    A couple years later, after several spam filters, PVA sweeps, and Cell Phone Provider crashes and decreases in income came about, it became "common sense" that CL reads BHW. That happened only AFTER things posted here had a direct effect on people pockets and marketing tactics.

    Yet, I see the same process repeat itself over and over again by members here who, it seems to me, value getting more "rep" then actually making money in their niches. Any business man knows that too much competition is a death throw to "easy money". Yet they continue to act like BHW is a "NON-FAMOUS" private invite only forum that has only 100 members vs. 200k. Which, considering how markets change soon after methods are posted here, is far from the truth.

    For alot of guys here, "common sense" dosen't become common until it starts to effect them. And by then, usually its too late.

    Conclusion:

    So how do you make real money? If your smart, you'll do what very few people in these popular IM forums don't do: start thinking for yourself.

    If you see someone claiming he makes "1k a day" using this method, don't beleive a word he says until you've tested it yourself. More then likely, he has most often inflated the number put by that $ sign. And this point, more then likely your thanks and rep to him means more then the ethics of telling you the truth about that niche.

    If you see a success story, take it with a grain of salt. If someones is selling you a system or something else connected with a success story, then take that with two table spoons of salt.

    Don't become so "excited" by the information in this forum that you turn off your brain, and start skipping over basic business principals.

    You are now one of the 200,000+ members, so the circumstances around BHW shares have changed from 2006, in the since that those shares decrease in value ALOT faster then they did back in the early 2000's unless they are moved to exec vip. You are no longer part of a small unknown market, your part of a huge potential market changing majority. Your competition is here. Your enemies are here. Scammers are here as well. And were ALL ANONYMOUS!!

    So in 2012, start thinking for yourself. Get a social life so you can get your "acceptance feelings" from people outside of IM forums.

    And when you find something that nobody else knows about, and your finally making REAL (no 9-5 job) money with it, its up to YOU how long it lasts.

    And btw, this is mostly partaning to online methods. Offline methods are alot less likely to have the same saturation effect as online methods are. just thought I'd add that in there.

    I hope you all achieve your goals of stress free IM living this year!

    Good Luck! :)
     
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  2. gjxgs

    gjxgs Junior Member

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    thanks op.
    you are right.
     
  3. EvilEmperor

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    This makes perfect sense. I think the biggest issue is not taking action.
     
  4. freelapse

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    Closely followed by taking stupid uninformed action.
     
  5. ChrisV

    ChrisV Newbie

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    This is so true, I know as I'm one of those noobs chasing my tail.
     
  6. uggoza

    uggoza Junior Member

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    one of the best threads I've ever seen. Thanks a lot

    p.s I'm one of those 98%
     
  7. backontrack

    backontrack Power Member

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    Great thread! Loved it from start too finish!
     
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  8. natostanco

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    IM is the gold rush of the new century, you have not stated anything new.
     
  9. InternetUser

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    good thread.

    work 24/7

    life's short
     
  10. keadams26

    keadams26 Regular Member

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    Hey gb, how much do you charge for article writing service? lol
     
  11. yowies

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    pot-kettle..from the guy that writes "is the gold rush blah blah blah"..
    Bit ironic eh..????:D
    What about someone twat posting.."stop scaring the newbies" .
    Being an ex gold hunter myself what happened historically..?
    Probably 80% of the gold hunters made nothing decent ..10% made a great income and the rest made a killing.by the way..the people who did make a killing in the gold rushes were the store owners..
    Great post mate..!
     
  12. phatzilla

    phatzilla Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    start selling shovels
     
  13. gb5000

    gb5000 Regular Member

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    Shovels are already being sold, check out the BST section!

    The noobs that make up 85% of BHW are a VERY LUCRATIVE market to alot of guys here.

    Not that thats a bad thing, as some services are great!

    But just having your eye's open to that fact changes how you view things.

    LOL, I'll take that as a compliment (I guess)
     
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    Yessir ... compliment intended
     
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    One of the best threads I've ever read . Thank you op, rep +
     
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    mxrtxn Newbie

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    Thanks a lot for this post. I wish all of you the best of luck on your business endeavors.
     
  17. toptips44

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    how do we know whats not allowed to be talked about if it can't be ta;lked about ?
     
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    anonguyalone Newbie

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    Well, i agree with you in parts.

    I believe that methods that uses only or to make REAL money you need some kind of software are doomed to be saturated. I tried twitter for a few weeks with TA and regret a lot, wasted time and money, now i want to sell my TA Pro license + TA Acc creator to invest in some other venture. Facebook, twitter, youtube, torrents are really saturated and only the first guys make money, because they know how to work the system, not get banned, flagged, etc...

    But i don't think the "method" i'm going to do right now is saturated, mostly because it isn't short term, its medium-long term to start to see some income and everyone want to bank right now, not start to see some thing 3 months from now.
     
  19. dollarzz

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    So f*cking true... I have the problems of having great ideas, being the first but not the knowledge to implement it as good. Then comes the competition and bye bye. BUT I DON't WANT A STUPID JOB!!! I wanna do this and do whatever I wan't! So I have to keep dreaming untill it becomes reality (put in some more work). Anyways, thanks for this, as depressing as it is, its reality for me.

    Then I got scrapebox, amr, senukex and then I see my competition has great private blog networks and outrank f*cking everyone with 100 backlinks and 3 month old sites.

    So what is internet marketing? It is depressing, but fun as it works, since I had some great days of $500 a day so I know I am not stupid and it works... But now I'm back at $10 a day.... AGAIN... :)

    Oh I stop reading succes stories now, I love em because I have a lott of knowledge so I can twist it like a madmen with my own methods, and sometimes its awesome. But I agree if 1000's are doing it its shit. BTW is was one of the first in the movie/tvshow niche. But I hated content lockers and missed out like a madmen, I hated content lockers and mobile submits. But now I regret I felled sorry for other people. If you wanna make money then F*CK everyone (consumers) people are stupid and if they want their stupid metarialistic stuff (iphones/ugg boots/iPods/iPads/iBooks/iHouses and iCars) I say I will market the shit out of you and make you spend your last single dollar. BAM!! well thats out of my system now!
     
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  20. Rickyj

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    The reason I don't make as much as I possibly could atm is because I'm lazy :-|