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Why is there no one offering the service to post links on competitors BL?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by RuthSam, Mar 21, 2015.

  1. RuthSam

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    After reading and using the methods shown in the noobs guide from t0mmy I was wondering why there is no one actually offering the methods used there as an service in the BST section.

    That would actually be something people could get success with and the service can be proven to have been executed not to speak from the positive ranking it offers the buyer!!

    It would actually be one of the most honest services available here backed up by qulity.

    What you think?
     
  2. ThopHayt

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    Time consuming. Most gigs there are nearly turn key with VERY little time/effort after initial set up. Sellers hate burning man hours. Which is why selling links is 10x more profitable. Economics. I'm sure you can find a company to do this, but it won't be a cheap one-time fee likely.
     
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  3. royserpa

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    I say its called having an edge.

    You just cant give everyone your secrets!

    A few months ago i tried to share a dropped domains guide and everyone posted and pmed me to take down the thread.

    Some people understand having an edge and thats probably the reason.
     
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  4. RuthSam

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    Yeah I understand that it is time consuming and the fee may be high. But hey, someone here offers Huffington post for $1900 or so... that's way above the budget of most here.. So expensive and time consuming it can't be to build links that way.

    I can imagine that most of the sellers have some ready-made scripts or software in place to quickly publish the link placement ordered by the customers they get here and in that way get more time counting there money. On the otherhand, it seems also that many of these services are not reliable.. So unless people give a shit about long term customers I can't see how it can't be profitable to offer this service.

    Finally I think it may be a easy way for someone to make some money and get BHW credit!
     
  5. lilmasta

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    I completely agree with thophayt and roy on this they both have explain the two most important reason why nobody offers a service that can actually benefit the client, Its time consuming and selling links is more profitable and doesn't require much time after you have already setup your network. I have been doing SEO for about 3-4 years and what i have noticed when a client website gets ranked on the 1st page and he is making money most of them get greedy and cancel the subscription (i usually deal with local clients in my city) and this is one of the reason why i don't take clients without signing a contract of atleast 6 months anyways its common sense if anyone has cracked a method of ranking websites just by sending 10-20 link why would he sell his service he can just make as many websites and rank them for him self and make shit ton of money.
     
  6. RuthSam

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    Your theory and business practices makes no sense lilmasta, sorry to say so. Somhow reading between the lines here it seems "one" would rather cheat the customers and sell them an illusion rather than a solution!

    You say they cancenl their service after they got no1!! hmmm, okay, let them do it, nothing last for ever so if you did it in the first place you can do it again, and if you did your work right they will come to you or not?

    Second thing, if this is what it is about then I don't know why t0mmy is sharing all his knowledge here on BHW?!! He could make money out of it rather than give it a way fro free! I still believe if someone put all this into some sort of BST he will make more money than anyone of the BST's just by converting his free to use methods into paid service!
     
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  7. lilmasta

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    Ruthsam i didnt said anything about cheating my clients i just said this is what happens when most of my clients reach their goal all i was trying to say that there is no concept of maintenance (in my local market it could be different in your's). when i client cancel's his subscription if i want i can remove their links from my network but i don't do it because that is unethical but what about the staff that i have hired should i fire them aswell? i cant play with other people's life like this and on the other hand what i have learned that every website is different if one method works on one site that doesn't mean it will work in every niche. There is always a risk of getting penalized i have had couple of website deindexed without any link building but when you are just selling links it dont matter because you are just selling links nobody in the BST section guarantees 1st page ranking without monthly subcription. Tommy on the other hand is sharing real quality information and i really appreciate that.

    There are some service provider who are providing some real quality services like BTB,RK,Tommy and couple of more and these are the only people who are providing guaranteed rank increase and all these services are monthly subscription and as you said if some provider decides to open a BST offering such quality link building service as tommy posted on the thread will gain alot of clients and indeed those clients will benefit aswell.
     
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    1. Time Consuming.

    2. We really cant figure out, which type of links ranked him. For example, he may have his own network, which may blocked my third party crawlers. If we going to imitate him, still its 50/50 chance. Buyers may get penalized or rank well.

    After paying huge $$$$ fee for this service and buyer gets burnt, service fails.
     
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  9. praetserge

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    Because it's about demand and supply... most of the people think that web2.0 links and tiered building is the best you can have so there's demand for it. Web2.0 and tier 2/3 spam is easy to do so with so much demand it's easy to make money.

    As for the competitors links, it's very difficult to value that service and it's open to dispute as if I provide you 10 links of your competitor, you could always come back to me and say that those are easy links and you actually wanted competitor's top links and such. Also the service would be much more expensive and time-consuming so there'd be much less demand.
    and I know for sure that some brands actually use those services and hire proper seo agencies to copy competitor links but those are expensive and definitely not affordable for the vast majority of BHW community.
     
  10. RuthSam

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    Some of the things your pointing out here are valid and clear. Maybe it is just too difficult to make it a service that can be sold to the majority of people at least here.

    Anyway, the results from these methods are outstandig and can't be compared with anything else. I'm on the 3rd money site building links and ranking that way, it's just cool and easy.
     
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    Why don't you go right ahead and open it?
     
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    Open what? - I don't do SEO and I will never do SEO that way in a BST. I will even not make any BST here... I'm only here to learn and discuss things... you know BHW is a discussion forum right.
     
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    I thought of starting this like 2 years ago, i did several hours research on this link building service. I still have the sales copy in my PC, i can launch it today if i want but then again i consider it really time consuming, i would rather sell individual links, also price for such service cant be less then $500 even for smallest pack since it takes a lot of effort researching good competitor links, and posting links on them.
     
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    Lol don't get offended its just a question.
    I mean you want a service, go ahead and create it.
    Didn't say anything about this not being a discussion forum. Carry on.
     
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    First thing I do when starting a new money site is to download the links of my top 3 competitors and crank up GSA SER post to their links

    The problem is a lot of people are ranking using private PBNs, and it's pretty much impossible to duplicate that link for link
     
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    I never got the whole "analyze your competitors backlinks" as if you could recreate his exact game plan. It's not like you fire up Spyglass/Ahrefs/Majestic etc. and say "OMG that's the secret!" and go out and produce an identical profile. Most important links that cause a website to rank well you cannot get yourself, they are unique to that website for one reason or another.

    To me these tools just give me an idea of what I'm up against, and after a while you'll develop a feel of what it will take to overtake the website, and also whether it's worth your time or not.
     
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