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Why i think that the "shaving" allegations are nonsense...

Discussion in 'Affiliate Programs' started by blackhaze, May 31, 2009.

  1. blackhaze

    blackhaze Power Member

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    EVERYONE is making money.

    -> The dude who gets his colon cleanse powder from china for pennies and markets it in the US as "#1 weight loss product".

    -> The CPA network, or whatever network this vendor is in.

    -> The affiliates.

    Why would a CPA network think they "need" to shave - do you really think they did not ALREADY do calculations beforehand - as any other business which sells something or provides a service?

    Cant we assume that if a network pays out $ for leads for some product, that they will have their payouts also strictly in relationship to their own earnings? They will get their cut, we get our cut as affiliates.

    The only reason i can even THINK of why it would be "necessary" to shave is if there is a high number of fraud - because then the real network earnings would be in no relationship to the payouts --> eg. higher affiliate payouts due to fraud while the real sales have not increased (which is basically a loss for the network)

    Correct me if i am wrong.
     
  2. hertz314

    hertz314 Newbie

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    They will simply make MORE money, there is no magic in this :)

    It's sufficient not to count all accepted leads, for example count only 90% of them and BAM -- more money for them, and you won't notice anyway, since they do this from the beginning :)
     
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    I would have to disagree I recently dropped a major network b/c of the same thing. It not only happened to me but to a few others that are on my same network. I send out approx. 3 mil leads a day all opt-in. When I ran a set of campaigns one day the tracking for the network was not right. The tracking for my email software rivals that of the major networks. Campaigns I did not even setup were getting hits and the hits didn't match up. And my hits from the software always match those from the networks.
     
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    People have had friends with no name or address affiliation sign up for something and the leads did not show up. People have done this test numerous time; that is how we know it exists.
     
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    Oblet BANNED BANNED

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    When your money beard gets too long, it's time to shave. Simple as that, really. Any questions shoot me a PM.
     
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    They always need more money and they dont care about you or your work, if its not you, someone will do the work for them.
     
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    It just makes sense to me that at least some of the companies would shave but I bet not all are shady. There must be some CPA companies that have integrity right?
     
  8. KHMNTCPR8

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    i just hate how my favorite network who im really cool with seem like they are shaving me big time... i wanna give them the benefit of the doubt becuz they never used to shave infact my convertions with them are the highest ive seen with any other network and seem accurate.

    my guess is that yes sometimes they shave because the leads arent turning into sales, and sometimes the shave because they dont reaally care about their affiliates
     
  9. gun-shy315

    gun-shy315 Regular Member Premium Member

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    This post is spot on. And let me give you an example. Go find a guy who is making 1 million dollars a year and I guarantee you he is not happy w/ his income. You know why? Because he's pissed that he's not making 2 million a year...and his buddy is making 3 million a year. Money will "F" you up mentally and it's almost impossible to be satisfied w/ what your currently making. This holds true for both individuals and corporations. Everyone wants more...including me :D
     
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    Would you rather have that nice car your friend has, or one that can do all that and more with just a simple 10minute tweaking of stats.