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Why Googles Penguin update is good news for cloakers.

Discussion in 'Cloaking and Content Generators' started by xu123, Aug 29, 2012.

  1. xu123

    xu123 Junior Member

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    We all know about the huge hit most sites took after the last update and it is now common knowledge that in effect Google is penalizing over optimized web sites and those that contain lots of unnatural backlinks.

    The Penguin doesn?t want you to manipulate Googles search engine at will. The Penguin is a filter that detects sites that go overboard with their SEO and penalize them hard.

    If you do a quick search of many highly competitive keywords now you will see that there are a lot of unoptimized sites ranking number 1 on Google. What is more a lot of these sites don't even have the keyword in the domain.

    Do a search of the keywords you were ranking for before and see what sites are dominating those now? I bet you will see a lot of garbage as well.

    This is good news if you are Cloaking with Fantomas because the pages are created exactly the way Google wants, not over optimized, simple,H1,H2 a few keywords and simple titles.

    It seems that in their attempts to stamp out people manipulating their search engine,Google has gone back in time with their approach to what they will rank.

    When Fantomas first appeared on the Scene it absolutely kicked Google ass and a lot of people made a crap load of money from it. Just think about it, Fantomas Shadowmaker cost over $2k back then yet almost every one who purchased it made their money back and a heap more from it.

    Google then went on it's path to domination and declared war on Cloaked sites with a lot of success. Now however, like prey that has strayed towards a waiting hunter, it seems like Google has unwittingly come to Shadowmaker, except this time Google is up against a formidable ingenious, stealthy foe that will give Google exactly what it wants.

    Happy days are here again...:D
     
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  2. JeanP

    JeanP Newbie

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    This is why I'm here searching. My website was rated #1-6 on my top keywords. ALL I did was read, read and read GOOGLE on what they wanted and did that. NOW I've fallen off the face of the planet and sales have droped to 1-2 a week????

    I'm trying to figure out what they want, it seems they wanted new sites that have NOTHING to do with the keywords.

    Oh I only have natural backlinks, so I know thats not the problem.

    I have, as of last friday attempted to purchases clicks (since mine have gone down so badly, thinking this might help) but live and learn, they took my money and don't respond what-so-ever). I thank Google for this, as I really EARNED my way up on top, now the one is ranked first is the one who has hundreds of hidden words on their webpage and isn't even selling the same product as I am.
     
  3. xu123

    xu123 Junior Member

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    I have done a few experiments with some new and old domains and this is my results so far.

    I Purchased a new .com domain well before the new Penguin and After the Panda update. Site generated with a new generating software used 3 keywords in the title, brief description using 1 keyword, submitted the site to a few dozen bookmarking sites. Submitted the sites using Nohands SEO for quick indexing ( yes I use this its not bad for quick indexing and no more ) I did not ping.

    Site was indexed in Google in less than 12 hours. I have not done any further submissions for backlinks and the site has remained on page one of Google for that keyword and is there now.

    Purchased a another 2 domains and reworked 3 of my older domains by republishign them on wordpress the same week optimized the content, SEO'd the posts, made sure keyword density was ok,underlined some keywords,linked posts to main site.
    In fact I did everything all the Gurus tell you to do and then more.
    Posted unique ( unspun articles )Submitted the sites to over 200 Bookmarking sites, RSSs, Pinged, rinsed lathered and repeated for th next few weeks.

    Rehosted the sites with SEO hosting each using unique IPs.

    Results??? ALL the old sites dropped from number 1 google within a couple of weeks and some are lost around the 200+ in googles pages. The new sites were indexed in less than 12 hours but have yet to see the number 1 page in Google.

    Moral of the story? the Jig is up on SEO aka the Gurus ways! I'm not saying it is dead but those days are over.
     
  4. DutchTrafficService

    DutchTrafficService Regular Member

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    The "guru way to do seo" has always been completely useless, unless you want to rank 9th after 4 months.
    People overthink this way to much, put up some random generated/cloaked crap content and blast the shit out of it and profit. Has always worked, will always work.

    Also, your first post makes zero sense, as SM simply creates what you tell it to create, due to templates and settings, nothing really changed with penguin.
     
  5. xu123

    xu123 Junior Member

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    LOL....that was the point about Shadow Maker Einstein..:rolleyes: who said Shadow Maker was somehow changed for Penguin? I just said that Penguin suits Shadow Maker?
     
  6. cash202

    cash202 Elite Member Premium Member

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    All new tricks are simple well forgotten old tricks.

    You won't believe how much of old school black hat techniques still work.
     
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  7. bstbuyer

    bstbuyer Registered Member

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    the game has not changed its just the players got tired
     
  8. saulgud

    saulgud Newbie

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    what kind of old school black hat tricks? I want to linkbuild my website
     
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    blackhacik Junior Member

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    what kind BH old schools technics are You talking?
     
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    cash202 Elite Member Premium Member

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    Like negative SEO. The new generation mistakenly think Penguin made it possible. Yeah, yeah...
     
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    I'll try this out because I somewhat feel one of my site may have this kind of penalty. I guess when you remove over optimizations, the penalty should go off itself in some time?