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Why don't proxies/vpn's don't work for creating google accounts? I keep getting phone veri

Discussion in 'Social Networking Sites' started by mcfakerhf, Jan 20, 2016.

  1. mcfakerhf

    mcfakerhf Newbie

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    So everytime I try to make a new account using chrome, deleting all the possible data on chrome in the history tab, once I fill in the registration form, I get sent to a phone verification page!
    What I don't understand is that I'm using different VPN's & each one of them don't say "suspected proxy" when I go to "whatismyipaddress". What am I doing wrong here? I've got a dynamic IP so I decided to try it with a non VPN IP & still I'm getting this phone verification right after filling in the registration form. Any help would be appreciated!
     
  2. Heisen

    Heisen Junior Member Premium Member

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    You are not doing anything wrong. Phone Verification is standard for google account creation. Very rarely you could get lucky and not get a verification request, but this mostly happens on devices that haven't been creating accounts in the past, or a lot of time has passed since last account created.
     
  3. mcfakerhf

    mcfakerhf Newbie

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    Thats very interesting what you say about devices that haven't been creating accounts in the past. So there is a way that google identifies our devices? Is there some sort of device ID that our computers leave behind through the browser interface? Can't we get rid of it or change it in order to appear as a new device?
     
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  4. gibran999

    gibran999 Newbie

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    is totally normal to ask to verify with a phone number
     
  5. mcfakerhf

    mcfakerhf Newbie

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    What I don't understand is that I made 5 google accounts yesterday when I started just from my home IP. Then the verificaiton popped up so I thought I should use a new IP / VPN & I've tried both resetting to a new IP & different VPN's & I'm still not allowed to create 5 in a row. The thing is I've deleted all possible history, cookies, cache & restarted the browser for each attempt. Still google somehow manages to connect me. So there still must be something that we are just not aware of.
     
  6. Heisen

    Heisen Junior Member Premium Member

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    As I said, phone verification is standard for google accounts, and if you don't get it, this is an exception. You can create as many accounts as you want, as long as you provide the verification code, so that Google knows you are human. For the metrics and factors they use to identify a device we can only speculate. After you have made 5 accounts, Google's filters are seeing you as someone that is creating multiple accounts, so they want to make sure you are not a robot, thus giving you a phone verification prompt. Changing your IP address and deleting cookies will not help you. Even if you install a fresh browser, you would still get the verification request.
     
  7. saxgod

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    The VPN and Proxy IP's you are using have already been used by 100's of others for google related purposes over the last years. Google gets a lot more traffic then whatismyipaddress so they can keep track of suspicious ips.

    Furthermore, what people say about google recognizing your device is true too. Its not that there is a "device id" or something, but google (and others like facebook) use a lot of other techniques to fingerprint you. Keep in mind that google is on hundreds of thousands of websites through their adsense network, their websites, like youtube, google, blogger, etc, and ofcourse recaptcha. On all of these web properties they can build a finger printing profile of you and also build a median statistic of what a regular real user his fingerprint and internet history should look like.

    So then you launch your virgin browser (with fresh and empty cookiestores) or account creator with proxies and vpns, and try to create an account. Google doesn't have any kind of fingerprint on you and the people working at google are smarter then you, me, and another 100 bhw people together, so they know that this kind of situation probably means the accounts are going to be fake. Thus, they ask for a phone number so that legit users can still create an account.

    If you would create an account from a browser/ip combo which has been browsing actively for a few weeks so a fingerprint is created, google is faster convinced that its a real person and might not ask you to do a phone creation. I have also noticed that ip's from europe get less pva then us ip's, probably because usa ip's are more abused then european.

    But still, its a combo of using ip's that have been dragged through the dirt by thousands of bh's before you, and the fact that you have no realistic fingerprint when u try to create an account that triggers the pva.
     
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  8. Heisen

    Heisen Junior Member Premium Member

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    You have to be practically a "google virgin" in order not to get phone verification.
     
  9. gogcwy

    gogcwy Registered Member

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    fresh fingerprint with no ip leak & dns leak. all is ok. good luck:)