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Why don't people want good and loyal content writers?

Discussion in 'Hire a Freelancer' started by roxblade, Nov 17, 2015.

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  1. roxblade

    roxblade Newbie

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    I successfully completed multiple projects where more work was promised. After praising my work, being patient and happy about my writing, everybody just disappears after one shot at it. I found out what they did: search other people who will do the job for less money. Why are things like this? If you're getting a loyal writer and good content, then why don't you want to stick to it?

    Is there something content writers are supposed to do for maintaining a long term partnership? If you are in such a partnership, will you care to share some experiences so that I have a bigger stint from next time?

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    My gf is a journalist and freelance writer. You need a site, you need a good sales process, and a good way to keep in contact. Having your work on contently, on freelancer and upwork. Learn to seek criticism because if you don't ask for feedback, people won't tell you, even if it's about price.
    I personally find it hard to outsource writing for my niche, very technical and healthcare related. Make sure you niche your writing as well. That might help with the searches when it comes to the job boards.
    And lastly, have a video made!

    Here's another tip. Go to networking events, here in the states a great one is Network After Work (NAW). Me and my gf go to those and then team up with people who need our services. I seek out financial advisors and insurance brokers to help them with their clients, and my gf seeks out seo artists, web developers, and graphic artists and pairs up with them to do their content for them. Soon you will have more work than you can handle, and then you will find yourself on the other side of this thread looking in!
     
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    Sometimes people are not working alone and maybe their partner is a dickhead... happened to me - had to lay off writers I would've liked to continue working with.

    But some, they just don't get what's been asked for or their works quality goes down (usually they had another writer than usual doing the job, someone was sick or whatever excuse they come up with).
     
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    It depends upon how people perceive the value of the content. Content for SEO purposes will go to the cheapest provider more often than not. Quality content intended for money sites with lengths starting at 1,000 words and up will generally go to the provider the website owner feels most comfortable with assuming it is at the going market rate for similar quality.
     
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    There are many people (too many unfortunately) who claim to have "more projects in the future", when it's only a one off type job.
    I think they say this because they hope you'll give them a better deal for their "test project", and save a couple of bucks.

    Don't take their words too seriously, and most importantly don't get your hopes up. Look for new projects and don't wait on these guys.
    From my experience, the "big buyers" rarely communicate asking for "bulk deals in the future".
    They order, and if they're happy, they order again.
     
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    They do, you are probably not one of them.
     
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    lol curious to know who your partner was now.




    @OP you posted this in the wrong section.............or did you.
     
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    I'll be honest, when I first started to outsource I used to "dangle the carrot" and tell people there were future projects, to get a better deal. And there were more projects, but only if I could get someone for the right price and right quality. I no longer dangle carrots in my hirings, it stresses the worker out, it impacts the quality of work, and it is better in my opinion to see how someone does in the face of a single project without the promise of more work in the future. It forces them to act normally, and I want someone who is normally on their shit.
     
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    Maybe people like to try new writers and services in general. Just look in BST. Very few people buy from single provider.
     
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    He's about to scam me for a 6-digit sum - you'll most likely hear about it soon ;)
     
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    Oh i see, i'll look out for that one :D

     
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    this is what I do. offline is where the money is at when it comes to writing. DOn't know why but everyone online is excessively cheap and demanding. and the "more work" promise is just a joke. you'll be amazed how much you can charge people offline compared to people who are looking for 500 words of content that will "pass copyscale". then they are surprised when their $1/100 words content isn't original. its laughable really lol

    I just used upwork to get some reviews so I can put them on my own writing site. Just like op said, you get great reviews then everyone disappears and dies

     
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    My secret and other's is all offline. How can you cultivate referral sources or COI (Centers of Influence). Get a program called SOC (Send Out Cards). It's great to send cards all automated. I do this to keep everyone in the loop, birthdays, holidays etc. If I was in your shoes, I would be sending out a card after job.
    When developing your referral network or COIs you have to demonstrate two things, being referrable (have a site and portfolio together with a process to handle incoming business and follow up business: Read the emyth revisited) and being memorable (the cards will help with that).
    Now most people in sales, and that's what you are in (you are selling yourself), get pissed when their prospects don't work out. If that happens it tells you one thing, they have a china-egg. A china-egg is when you devote more resources to a single candidate (qualified or not) hoping it turns out well, wasting their time that could be used to prospect and hone your delivery.
     
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    To be honest, I had the opposite experience and being in IM for over 6 years I always found it extremely hard to hold on to writers as they just become to cocky and unprofessional or just leave when the feel like.

    If your writing is good I think it's only right that you charge a premium for it... and sorry I have no interest in $3 articles.
     
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    We live in a world of speedy and fast progress. Most would rather pay $3 for a 500 word article that's junk, just to help with their rankings.
     
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    Wrong part of the forum - but...you probably aren't charging enough. $5-$10 writing clients are the worst. They don't know the value of what they're buying, and they don't respect the writer.

    Also, a lot of people posting jobs promise more work down the line whether that work exists or not. They do this to compensate for the fact that they are offering peanuts.

    Charge what you are worth.


    Pay more.
     
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    I've definitely been guilty of this. It's hard to make the transition from taking any job to only take jobs that meet your requirements even when you need the money. I guess its just where you find the clients that determines their temperament
     
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    Yes, write for $0,1/100words. That's the kind of rate buyers expect.
     
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    I'm a Spanish writer myself and as stated by others, people who know what your content is worth will usually keep coming back and even pay you more without asking when you provide some extra value. New buyers just looking for quick content and saving money won't always appreciate the custom effort but you just move along, stay improving your image, services and portfolio, and they'll eventually start staying with you. Best of luck!
     
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    Try to get content writers in Denmark.
    I offer $15/300 word article, and all the people who contacts me makes horrible articles, which basicly is the same line on 50 words, copy and pasted.