Now I don't think it's fair to say user error in this case. It is the actual link quality I am concerned about. Granted I'm still learning it but I've had a run with over 100 livelinks. I also hasten to add I have also been RSSing and bookmarking the last ones. Checking in SB last I checked most of them showed they were indexed from that run. I'm not too bothered about sign up rate since I put that down to user error. I'd be happy learning to increase my sign ups if I didn't think the actual links were junk. I was thinking about it and most of these links are pr0 which means I could have just done a crappy scrapebox blast with WAAAAY less effort and got many many more links for it. So I really don't understand why people give it so much praise. I'm thinking they are either stupid and don't know what is working from what is not and just praise AMR cos it's one thing they used...or they have some vested interest as affiliates like is usually the case. I wanted to give it a fair shot but since alot of my links are live and indexed and I have seen no noticeable serp climbs I don't see much more I can do other than get a refund. Also the forum is really quiet over there, plus very superficial instructions on the site, so there is the distinct feeling that after purchase I am 'left to fend for myself'. I want to make it work so vincey boy if you'd care to help me out like you did debbie I'd love to make it work- such that I can see tangible improvements in my serps form my efforts. I shall then amend my comments here otherwise I'll be going for that refund.