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Why do shopping site pages rank above me?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by nickjett, Oct 30, 2011.

  1. nickjett

    nickjett Junior Member

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    I had a few sites which where ranking on top spot before the panda 2.5 update. Since then all the sites i had at 1st spot dropped below shopping site results pages. The ones which dont have much relevent content its just a keyword result search.

    People keep saying this last update is all about content, is it though? Could my spammy links have been devalued? Or is it the content, if that is the case why do i have shopping site results pages above me, with no relevent content?
     
  2. Getwhatchuwant

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    Its like that for most results and what makes tough kw's tough and why we have to focus on long tail results or niches.

    I suspect its about high quality backlinks. a major store may not have as much helpful info about an HDTV but it probably has thosuands fo good links pointing to his product. This is just speculation of course, if you have any other ideas let me know.
     
  3. LBrown

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    I'm seeing the same thing. I create relevant sites that give the searcher exactly what they are looking for and I've been bumped by walmart and amazon search results. They have no links to the ranking page and very little relevant content.

    One of the walmart pages ranking in one of my niches actually has this at the top of the page:

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    We found 10342 CLOSE matches for "keyword"
    We found 0 EXACT matches for "keyword"
    THEY HAVE ZERO MATCHES FOR THE KEYWORD! WTF!?

    I can't explain to you why google did this on the last update. It just means these big stores will be able to reduce their adsense budget which isn't good for google. But maybe there will be another algorithm update right before the Christmas shopping season starts that will force all the big stores out of the top spots and force them to spend even more of a fortune in adwords campaigns.
     
  4. nickjett

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    Which makes me think it something more to do with the backlinks, of our sites. What kind of backlinks do you have pointing to your sites? Profiles, blog comments, web 2.0 etc?
     
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    I have mostly in context links from domains with PR. I use BMR for the core of my link building which is a large private network of blogs with PR. They are not spam crap links. It has nothing to do with our backlinks. From what I see, Google has an agenda with this last update that has nothing to do with improving the quality of the SERPs.
     
  6. nickjett

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    So is Panda a penalisation or just an algorithm change? Will getting more backlinks help, will changing the content help? Are we stuck, should we start new websites with great content in mind?
     
  7. NVBpro

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    I think that now google start to put more value on brands and organisations... saw that few of my .org domains rank pretty well considering that they have only 1 article... and i did not done any offsite seo, plus this is not a microniche.

    Google is google... yeah