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I see that in most seo services related sales threads, the seller has made no claims that this service will protect from Google updates. Are these sellers afraid from Google updates themselves?
Why do seo sellers do not mention anything about Google updates safety in their sales threads?
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of course! No one is immune to google's shennanigans. Why would these sellers guarantee what doesn't depend on them?
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Why do you feel that Amazon and wikipedia like sites are different?
Someone must be doing seo for them though the information will never be public.
I actually edited them out of my reply, but you were faster than me
It's true that I'm not sure that Amazon and Wikipedia are safe anymore either (although Amazon might still be safe due to their popularity and authority, but Wikipedia doesn't always rank #1 as they used to, which is why I edited)
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Amazon and Wikipedia have a billion visitors a month. Yes, they are fucking different than your average site the seo sellers here target. They are the fucking cornerstones of the internet.
Wikipedia doesn't rank #1 always because google has personalisation filters these days and thinks you will like some sites more than wiki. Nothing really to do with its authority.
They don't need no seo work these days. Back when Wikipedia and Amazon weren't household names (in the late 90s-early 2000s), Amazon did it's seo work with it's affiliate program and Wikipedia was a unique project, which generated marketing for itself.
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Because they can't make unrealistic claims in their BST they won't pass the moderation and approval.
it does have to do with its authority a little, but you're right about the personalization
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That's like saying companies giving a guarantee to investors that their stocks are never going to fall.
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Thing is nobody can, anybody who says they are able to is just selling something that does not exist. Unless you own or work at a very high level at Google how do you know what Google decide to change in the future updates? It is impossible to guarantee safety from impact of any updates. I have seen companies offering such guarantees or promises of safety against updates, but I always think the same if they are prepared to lie about that then I certainly would not trust them to do the job to be honest.
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We know the basic thing Google objects. That is gaming rhe system. So if a service is focussed on genuine links, there are less chances to be affected by any update.
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Technically anything you change to a website could be classed as trying to manipulate Google rankings and as such all SEO methods are breaking their terms and conditions. So you never know just what they will add to the naughty list in the next update or the one after that or in 2yrs time etc. Nobody can guarantee to not be impacted by Google updates if you do make such guarantees in my opinion you are untrustworthy.
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I have a feeling that every webmaster is aware when he is using blackhat methods. It just depends on type of project whether the risk is worth it or not.
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That's just the thing though what is considered white hat or safe today could change tomorrow or next week.
For example let say Google find adding videos to pages useful for a while and actually give extra credit to pages containing videos. So people start adding videos to pages only for Google to then change their mind an actually they don't like videos on pages so start punishing sites who have videos on their page. That's the nature of SEO and always has been what works today could well land you in trouble in the future and you just have to move with the times and do the best you can at any given time.
As an SEO provider I still think it is impossible to make any promise of guarantee that your methods will not lead to future issues with Google.
Because
You are inviting more trouble.
On top of that, iirc, your BST must be true and proven when getting it approved.
How are you going to prove to the BST mp approvers that your techniques are "immune" to google updates?
1-2-3-4-5 links isn't really enough to prove "its not fail proof"
Google algo changes constantly, that would mean, the very next update, could be the next day, your BST claims are no longer accurate and your previous "methods/techniques" are now all detectable, so now you may have to refund your previous xxx customers.
You are inviting more trouble.
On top of that, iirc, your BST must be true and proven when getting it approved.
How are you going to prove to the BST mp approvers that your techniques are "immune" to google updates?
1-2-3-4-5 links isn't really enough to prove "its not fail proof"
Google algo changes constantly, that would mean, the very next update, could be the next day, your BST claims are no longer accurate and your previous "methods/techniques" are now all detectable, so now you may have to refund your previous xxx customers.
The algorithm's a moving target, you know? It's not about fear; it's about honesty. Any seller claiming to be update-proof might be selling smoke. Focus on quality, relevancy, and a solid strategy. That's the real shield against updates.