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Why Do People On This Forum Outsource?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by gimme4free, Nov 18, 2008.

  1. gimme4free

    gimme4free Executive VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    OK, so now I should only have the people that outsource reading this post :D

    I am a bit curious as to why people on this forum outsource? Obviously it is to get someone that you can pay to earn you more than you pay them but surely they would just start doing whatever you are getting them to do on their own and earn more??

    PS. Off to try and clean coffee that I spilt all over my car seat this morning now, back in a bit :(
     
  2. lewi

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    basicly because of the time factor involved..... most people that outsource work only outsource a small part so exactly what you stated cannot be carried out.

    Also if you outsource something that would take them an hour for $5 or whatever.... and then you go off and write 2 or 3 articles in that time for $10 then you are better off... (stupid example but you get my point)
     
  3. flow

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    You could say the same about any business really. Why don't the grunt workers do what the company is doing? Well I don't know... they don't know any better, they don't want to, they don't know how, they don't care, lots of reasons.
     
  4. tanya7zhou

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    Totally agree with you Lewi. Gimme4free doesn't understand how the business world operates, coz if he does, he wouldn't ask that question.

    All great people who have made discoveries and inventions, they didn't do it by themselves. They know how to create a map, and everything, but they get their bits and pieces from other people they outsource their activities to.

    Outsourcing is the way to go. No man is an island. If a person is still scared that someone will still their ideas, then that person is not fit to be in business.
     
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    yeh and also outsourcing can save you alot of time and money to.. why do soo many goto india for workers.. hire them at freeance sites and so on.. cos they cheap..
     
  6. lucky13

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    I outsource almost everything I do.

    Let me explain...

    If I have a client who needs a website, I will charge $XXX and hire a guy out of india, or russia or costa rica where the dollar is worth a lot more. I will then pay him to do whatever "I would" do for the client. Why am I going to pay some guy $15 an hour in NY when I can pay someone $2 an hour elsewhere? This goes for anytihng from a call center to having people do projects online for you.

    Outsourcing is a big part of my profit margin.

    Just my 2 cents.
     
  7. izodos

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    time is money ...
    as this is a bh forum we all trying to make more money with less efford so outsource is the key ...
    for example if we get the ac method.. if you find someone to write an article for 1$ and you place it to ac and get 3-4$ we you have to spend those 5-10 mins to write the article ? you can give this time to make something else ... its simple i think ...
    the only problem is to find the right people.
    if you dont trust people just make your project in parts so nobody cat steal your ideas...
    also dont forget with bh methods there is always a chance to be banned and not paid so they prefer to do the work for other and get their money
     
  8. gimme4free

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    I complete understand the business world. It was just 1 aspect on this forum that I was curious about. There are users on this forum that offer article writing for $1 an article when they know that you are submitting them to AC. Why would they do this? Surely AC is a worldwide thing and they can just submit the article themself and earn 5X as much? It is just that a lot of people on this forum seem to offer their services on a thread which tells them how to make money and really you should be asking them the question of why wouldnt they just do it themself?
     
  9. ken3401

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    Outsourcing saves a lot of time and allows you to be able to focus on different things. You will also get a greater turn-out and usually that means more profit.

    And of course, others like myself often outsource for two reasons: The work gets done faster when you pay one or several persons to do it. And sometimes it's out of being lazy and just like to to sit on my ass and throw some cash at a project instead of doing myself.
     
  10. justthinking

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    Don't always take for granted what you read here on this site. Everything is a matter of scale. A member of this site agrees to rewrite articles for $2. It sounds really cheap. A lot of the time, he/she is packaging these articles for a larger bundle to submit to their re-writers. They may only make $.50 per article, but they didn't do anything besides write a post.

    If i was guaranteed to make a penny for every widget I produced, I guarantee you I would promise a thousand people I would give them half of a penny for every widget they produced.

    Believe it or not, you are in the same business with BH. A company wants customers. Normally, we bring them customers and are paid according to THEIR rules. When we are long gone, the company still has a customer some of the time.
     
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  11. dbomez

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    A few good points have been said already. It's all about scale :) 1 Person can't do all the work, but if you hire 10-50 people to do it than each of them individually don't have resources to hire 50 people! They need their 5-10 bucks a day everyday. It's like opening the company, not everybody do it because it involves some risk and not everybody likes to take a risk. In my country (Croatia) it's very hard to have a profitable business because taxes are so high and that's why a lot of people work at their job for $500 a month but no risk involved. And who says that some "niche" or method will work, you have to test it, but some Indian worker who works for 50 bucks a month doesn't have $500 just to test the niche.

    I have a web design company and I still live and work at my parents place so I can keep up with the expenses and keep working on learning IM but not a lot of people can do this over here.

    And just add a little note, check the paypal site, you will see a lot of countries don't have option to be payed through paypal, we can only spend our money but we can't be payed :) That's why AC, ebay and a lot of other methods can't work for us. I have to be happy that Clickbank is sending checks to my little f*** up country :D And even with that I have to wait 1 month for every check to be approved.
     
  12. selcor

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    A wise man told me that alot of business people mistakenly try to "focus on their weaknesses" and make themselves better in that (those) area(s)-- WRONG -- you should focus on what you do well, and outsource everything else to those that are good in that area... Thats why I outsource-- to let me focus on what i do best.
     
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    we outsource because we dont wanna end up working like a 9 to 5 job.thats the whole point of internet marketing and bh.work less,work smart,earn more.
     
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    Plus the idea of constantly building new sites :)
     
  15. lucky13

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    This is EXACTLY what im already doing on A/C :)

     
  16. lucky13

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    Amen, brother. Very well put. That is my prime reason for doing what i do. I DREAD a 9-5.

     
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    As someone already puts it, it's not always about working hard, but working smart.
     
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    Because some things you just cant get for free, like creating unique content. All the torrents in teh world wont help you there :)
     
  19. uma4guma

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    I outsource for one of two reasons.
    1. i don't know how to do what needs to be done.
    or
    2. I can hire someone to do what needs to be done for much less than what I can charge the client for the work.

    Either way, it frees me up to go wrangle up more clients, while he current project is in progress.