Why do people care about ranking on anything past page 1?
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KHer0
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For me, Ranking in any thing less than the first 2 positions worth nothing at all.
No one in second page cuz he wants that. He is trying to be in first page and you just caught him the process. OR he is trying to rank for another similar keywords and he is 1 for it and in second page for keywords he isn't targeting.
No one in second page cuz he wants that. He is trying to be in first page and you just caught him the process. OR he is trying to rank for another similar keywords and he is 1 for it and in second page for keywords he isn't targeting.
youtalkmedia
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Couple reasons to hit page 2 and be happy.
1) You are using a link to increase overall authority of a website. You may not need that keyword, but by having it ranked higher can help boost the page you really want to rank.
2) Many service make above $10 conversion. Some make $500+. Even if you can get 5-10 conversions per month it's amazing.
1) You are using a link to increase overall authority of a website. You may not need that keyword, but by having it ranked higher can help boost the page you really want to rank.
2) Many service make above $10 conversion. Some make $500+. Even if you can get 5-10 conversions per month it's amazing.
gregyoung14
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Offers above $10 seem pretty hard to convert on, what percentage do you think convert with a $10 offer? If it's even 1% I'd be very surprised.
youtalkmedia
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Might not be for an offer. For example, in the real-estate niche, lets say you have a website for rentals in an area. An agent who rents a unit will earn 1/2-1 months rent for renting a unit. Say the unit rents for $1200, a conversion would be someone renting the apartment, and the agent making $600-1200.
Same niche, if an agent signs a home buyer, in an area where homes average $250,000 and the average commission for sale is 2.5%, a new listing/sale of a house would mean a $6250 commission.
gregyoung14
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Ah, this is very different example than I had in mind, but yeah I see your point. This specific niche I'd assume has a very low low number of people converting but every conversion counts since the payout/commission is so high. Very interesting
SEOMemj
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Money is money. I'd rather be page 2 making $5/month than page 10 making $0. So yes, if you're making money, it matters.
It also matters to show progress. If you do client SEO and you start on page 6 - both you and the client care a lot about when you make page 5, 4, 3, etc. It can be the difference of keeping that client.
If you make $10/hour working at a retail store and you're told you can get a $0.10 raise (1%) would you say no? Assuming you work 40 hours a week for 50 weeks that's an additional $200/year. That might not seem like much to you, but for other's it's a matter of paying rent or living on the street.
$10 isn't a high payout but based on your math could still be an extra $1,500/month
gregyoung14
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Client/SEO work is a good angle, I hadn't considered that.
Yes, in theory you would never say no to a "raise" in income. But, this is different, effort/cost/benefit analysis, your raise example assumes no change in output/work. But you still have a fair point.
But there still starving....... with the cracker there fulfilling their hunger but who checks page 7? nobody so its still the same as being nowhere, financially speaking @derekxec
Whats a high roller? i searched the term but all i could find was this nydailynews com/news/national/lovebirds-accused-public-sex-las-vegas-ferris-wheel-article-1.2526454 which im guessing is not related to what your talking about... @mickyfu
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The error in your thinking is that people build websites to target a handful of keywords.
A decent sized site can rank for 20k+ longtails. Having 10's of thousands of keywords on page 2 and the top of page 1 can still earn you a couple of thousand a month. It's not the same level of money as you'd have if you were top 3, but this is why building an authority site and just letting it rank naturally can still earn you good money if you don't have much of a budget for SEO.
A decent sized site can rank for 20k+ longtails. Having 10's of thousands of keywords on page 2 and the top of page 1 can still earn you a couple of thousand a month. It's not the same level of money as you'd have if you were top 3, but this is why building an authority site and just letting it rank naturally can still earn you good money if you don't have much of a budget for SEO.
MariosElGreco
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Thats is the main reason to look for adevrtising only , and not pay too much attetion on seo part . Even if you have done everything right nothing tells you that y get 1st page . There are so many websites in the world that 1st page is like a dream those days , Even for local seo (well , depend in the Country) . but even then you can't be sure !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At least with ads (google,bing,socials) you can have some traffic (good traffic)
At least with ads (google,bing,socials) you can have some traffic (good traffic)
GuantoViking
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When you take the time to create unique web content with specific keywords designed to boost your visibility in search results, you not only increase your search engine ranking but also increase the probability that your readers will return.
MariosElGreco
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Well hopefully article seo isn't so experise yet , at least in google eyes . I mean , even if you articles are not exaclty readable (like google's tranlsate
) you can rank without problem , on some point atleast , but the main factor is that its not a signal if they return to any site to read your articles (if that changes , then better to delete now my site) .Financially speaking, yes, but getting in the game is a start and helps with motivation. Just think if they do a bunch of work and don't see any results at all. You have to start somewhere and it's usually not #1, haha!