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Why can't I move from the #4 spot on Google?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Kyle787, Jul 14, 2011.

  1. Kyle787

    Kyle787 Junior Member

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    I made my first site a year ago. It was an affiliate site with some unique content based on the products I was promoting. At the time, I had no clue that I needed to pick keywords to rank for but it got lucky enough that the domain I chose turned out to be a keyword phrase with 1,300 monthly searches and 25,000 competing sites haha.

    I have been manually building links, and scrapebox blasting, but I don't know why I haven't been able to move from spot #4 for over 3 months now. I have the meta tags in, description with keyword phrase, and phrase in the articles I published on the site when I created it.

    Am I not doing something I could be?
     
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    ultimategamechain Power Member

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    I think you should read some more link building techniques. You might be missing something. or just spy on your competitors backlinks
     
  3. Kyle787

    Kyle787 Junior Member

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    Think making a link wheel might work?
     
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    turbopugsleylx Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Link wheels were pummeled by G months ago....surefire way to get your site to drop in ranking...
     
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    Try a backlink pyramid , .EDU Links , High PR profile links , Homepage PR Links and a good few Web 2.0 's :)

    Good luck
     
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    with such a low competitive keyword and with a domain name aged 1 year you should have ranked #1 by now. Are you indexing your manually creating backlinks? Does it show up on your webmasters tool?.. try to make more quality backlinks rather than quantity and you can see the results by yourself.
     
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    get into some private blog networks like BMR and EZarticlelink (make sure it's only postonly, and you can set up dummy sites for normal domains there).

    as for BMR, since it's expensive, you can subscribe for a month and unsubscribe in the 2nd month, and resubscribe later anytime you want. Linkvana works too but it's too expensive and a bit ineffective i guess (but i had my posts there too)

    Also buy some backlinks from d3t0x here, he knows what he's doing with his blog networks.

    Build some link pushes as well as try to get a bit of social bookmarking game.
     
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    Before you start making link building plans you really need to take a look at those three sites above you and figure out exactly why they are ranking better than you.

    Is it number of links?
    Is it the quality of the links?
    Is it on site factors?
    etc etc. etc.......

    Find out exactly what the problem is before trying to fix the problem.

    Being #4 is not the problem, being #4 is a symptom of the problem. The problem is Google thinks those sites are better than yours. Your job is to figure out why, only then can you intelligently try an fix the problem. Anything else is just stumbling around in the dark guessing.


    If you do not know where you are going. How are you going to know when you get there?


     
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    asiriusthoth Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    That comment deserves a +rep in my book.. you NAILED it!

    I normally tell people to focus their website, but times like this... you have to find out WHY they are beating you.
     
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    Thanks...

    It really is no different than analyzing the competition before you enter a particular niche. You choose a niche, come up with a plan that you think will get you to the top (or you should anyway) and then implement it. If and when you plan falls short you have to reanalyze the data and make corrections.

    You see so many threads asking "Why am in not on the first page" or "Why am I not #1" and really except in very general terms you can not tell them why. You can guess what the problem is but without analyzing the problem all you are doing is guessing and guessing leads to a lot of wasted effort. My guess is wasted effort and a general lack of planning causes more problems than anything else.
     
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