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Why Are You Blanking The Referrer?

Discussion in 'CPA' started by CashGrower007, Jul 6, 2010.

  1. CashGrower007

    CashGrower007 Regular Member

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    Hey guys,

    What do you guys say when you're asked that question by your affiliate manager?

    Can you share some possible answers.
     
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    why ur am asked that? your lead has no referer? or your CTR so high?

    its hard question :(
     
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    Tell them you're using Adbrite or something, and you don't know why the referers are blanked.

    Or you could tell them you're sending the traffic through a tracking script so you can count the hits.

    Or mix in some legit traffic, so not all referers arte blanked.
     
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    This is what I do.

    You use an internal click server to measure metrics across your vast network. This has allowed you to collect data about your visitors and clickors over the past 12 months and has led to a vast increase in your conversion rates.

    Previously you worked with XYZ network 'only' and while you were there on 2 separate occasions your methods/sites/content were compromised on some of your most profitable campaigns. Your leads were comming from multiple domains/sites/sources and the only conclusion that made sense was someone from within the network, be it your aff-man or someone on the technical side was copying your techniques. You have since resolved that you will not allow someone to copy your niche framework and would happily give up your last months earnings with their network to keep the details your your campaign under wraps. Besides ZYX network is currently offering the same campaign and you are on really good terms with your aff-man there 'cos you slept with her at Ad-Tech San Fran' and think they can probably offer you a better per lead payout.

    This is how I deal with this issue. Remember the network make 25+% off of everyone of your leads. If you are going to pull out of their network in its high likely they will be more willing to negotiate.

    -aReJay
     
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  5. MrDetails

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    I used to blank it, but I started getting leaked referrers from people using a 'minority' browser, which DMR's don't work (very will) with. So now I just throw up a quick WP blog, make a few posts and redirect my traffic through there (mixed in with some junk traffic too of course). I haven't had any problems with it so far and I've been using this method for a few months now.

    I know it's a bit more effort, but it's 10x safer and they never ask questions :)

    If you're adamant about blanking the ref then you can say that you've had campaigns stolen from you before so you'd rather your sites stay private, hence the blanked ref.
     
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  6. CashGrower007

    CashGrower007 Regular Member

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    If you're gonna fake the referrer to a white hat blog, aren't they going to see that ur wh site isn't capable of delivering that much traffic, especially if ur gonna be sending a ton of traffic with bh methods.
     
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    Never blank it, Fake it, easy!
     
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    millhugz Regular Member

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    Why do people blank/fake referrers? Is it only for the iframing method?
     
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    CashGrower007 Regular Member

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    Blackhat Methods + NOT Blaking/Faking The Referrer = Losing All Your Money.
     
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    portugalkix BANNED BANNED

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    They cant see. You say to them that the site is new and the traffic started to came from PPC services. Easy. And believe, it is way safer to fake it.

    But personally I do only WH. So i wont have any problems in the future.
     
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    Yes yeap baby :D
     
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    PPV Traffic has a blank referrer right?
     
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    There are some methods out there (i think there are some here too) to completely fake your refferer..
    use them
     
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    The problem is, i can't fake the referrer because my wh site isn't capable of delivering the amount of bh traffic i get.
     
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    Say's who?
    Don't give your aff mngr stats about your traffic and if he asks for it just fake the stats
     
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    How could it possibly have a referrer? there no site that the user is coming from. I run a lot of PPV campaigns and my Google analytics shows that it's 100% from direct traffic.
     
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    You can't fake the stats, he can easily check the Alexa rank.
     
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    And you can easily fake that with junk traffic... hit up the buy/sell/trade forum :p