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Why are so many people against advancing agriculture?

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  1. Roparadise

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    A few days ago people were actually protesting making agriculture better, by marching around with signs knocking Monsanto. When did the hatred of science get so popular in the world, especially when it involves biotechnology. Yet in other areas there isn't much hatred such as computers and transportation.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/25/march-against-monsanto-gmo-protest_n_3336627.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
     
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    Because money from 'fracking' comes first...

    http://earthjustice.org/features/campaigns/fracking-across-the-united-states

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    Maybe because of statements like this:
     
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  9. Roparadise

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    The FDA was created to make sure food is safe to eat, and if they deem its safe then a company can sell what they created.
     
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    Not to get into politics but, the FDA, FSA are controlled by the companies they are meant to regulate.

    They are in it for the money... not for serving the public.
     
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    GMO Seeds are bad because we dont know how they will affect other animals and even the long term effect on humans- say we find a way of altering the genes of a strawberry plant to make it more disease resistant but bees find it poisonous - guess what- we just ruined a whole bunch of other crops since all the bees will be dying off. The point is, if gmo seeds finds a solution to one problem, it could cause hundreds more. Plus remember they are a corporation whose focus is profit maximization in the short term.
     
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    If the companies are corrupt,why can't people get together and either buy them out or create a ethical biotech company, instead of wasting time protesting.

    Bee's are old school you do not need them in agriculture when there is artificial pollination.
     
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    Totally agree on what you are saying, FDA has no independence at all. If advancing agriculture will bring more organic food thus brings the price down I am all up for it.
     
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    That's like quoting republicans saying democrats are bad or vice versa.

    Any activist or company or government is always going to skew things to make it fit their narrative. The truth is often times somewhere in the middle. People spend too much time reading one sides view and accept it as truth.

    I hate to break it to you but that is the case. Companies go through an approval process to bring things to market. Whether you think that system is broken is something else entirely.

    Business owners care about making profit within the system they are in. Most play by the rules. The main problem is government corruption that leads to problems. This is what leads to the crap that makes the market that ends up killing people. The companies will always try to do it regardless. The only way to stop it is to stop government corruption.

    I honestly have no opinion on this subject because I'm ignorant of all the facts. From the sound of it and with my background in science, it doesn't sound as bad as people are making it out to be.
     
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    The answer is gmo seeds are not ethical at all. Would you want to eat a tomato with the genes from a salmon fish? Check it out on go0gle "tomato fish gene"
     
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    Like I said above the companies aren't the problem the government is. Stop looking at it like they're the issue. When you have a government that is willing to be bought off through favors and bribes this stuff will continue to happen. It's human nature and is replete with examples throughout history. Getting honest people in government instead of lifetime politicians who are mostly lawyers is the issue.

    Just because it's on the internet doesn't make it true. Try reading scientific studies about the subject instead of some rant on the internet that most likely is being argued by an ignorant fool.

    People like to pick and choose things to fit their narrative just like I said above. Just because a group of people thinks it's bad doesn't mean it is. Many people fight progress. We used to burn people at the stake for being witches.

    I'm not saying there's no issue with GMO but until I've gone through the studies I'm not going to mouth off like an expert claiming it's the end of the world as we know it. How many times have we heard that crap and it turned out to be a fallacy?
     
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    Op you should learn about gmos in general, they are proven to even kill bees with their massive pesticides and genetic mutations. Also gmo food is weak and more vulnerable to insects and other invading bacteria than their organic counterpart. You can have many information sources.

    I really dont think hatred is the right word here. There are thousands and i would even dare to say millions of reasons many first world countries have banned Monsanto and gmos. From health to living better. I can talk much more about this but this reply is just a very general idea of whats happening around the world.
     
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    Oh cmon you're not that stupid. How will you buy the company or make a competiting one when the big boys own the fucking goverment, You will never get anything approved if its threat to current top players.

    Your right,I think Only way to get presentative democracy (wonder if its called like this) working is to public execution for corrupted fucks. I mean wen politicians get caught doing some shady shit and have to resign they get jobs from the companies they did the shady stuff for. Also when they get eleceted to govt they can break everything they said in their campaing and do what ever they please. Beause in next 4 years people will forget and then at the re-elections its just about who got the best marketing team and budget telling everyone this guys a best for the position.

    You can't really change the system without killing lots and lots of people since they own the goverment, legal system, banking system and have money and power to do what ever they want. Though i doubt any of them still has bulletproof head.
     
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    So if we can't ever compete lets all organize a mass suicide rally,and go kill ourselves.

    Seriously wtf is up with the defeatist mentality on BHW.
     
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    Because food should not be altered in any way. All this GM sh*t makes us sick and unhealthy. It is poison, I tell you!

    There should be more protests like this. Finally people are starting to get more educated as to what we should eat and what not.

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