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Why are small time marketers scared of the FTC?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by EscalateSEO, Mar 16, 2013.

  1. EscalateSEO

    EscalateSEO BANNED BANNED

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    I see a lot of newbies asking about email spamming and then getting scared off when the FTC is mentioned. Are you guys worried about that?

    It seems to me like they are more focused on phone spam and bigger things right now. Even when they were cracking down on email spam a few years ago, they still only seemed to be going after people sending hundreds of millions of emails.
     
  2. somebodysomewhere

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    My two cents..... Nobody wants to deal with the feds, IRS, FBI, you name it, leave me the F alone! ;)
     
  3. Murdoch1337

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    Using illegal methods is always dangerous. You can look at it like this. Do police investigate most shop lifting cases? Not usually, as they are too busy with bigger crimes. However, if you choose to shoplift, you could get caught.

    Same with spam. You might only send out 20,000 spam emails per day, but the law might eventually catch up with you. While you're probably not the main target, you're still breaking the law.
     
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    Actually I don't give a **it about any F thing

    All I care about is honesty.

    So, using spamming to Scam people, Steal their Data, Spread your worms, or pitching the hell of them or even sending a sex toys link hopping it goes to the right person. THIS IS JUST SUCKS

    Using it as a mean of marketing where everyone gets benefit. Then I'm totally okay with it. If someone doesn't want to get e-mails he wouldn't revealed it in Public !!! :S

    It's just like someone leaving the newspaper beside your door instead of you going to buy it. You just have to make sure he wants the newspaper :)

    BTW, I spent a lot of time on the "SpamHaus" site reading. They say something between the lines that goes like there is no way to tell if the message is unsolicited spam or a normal one. So we have just to block them all.

    And of course, this is just my Opinion
     
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  5. zebrahat

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    It's more like the FTC and other bureaucracies are scared of small marketers. The bureaucrats actually represent and protect big business and the establishment from viable alternatives; they serve to protect the Big Inc from emerging competitors, while putting up noble window dressing rhetoric about protecting the public. The issue goes way past spam, and is more about control.

    In the aggregate, we outnumber the big boys, and we're "too free" in their eyes, in a number of senses. The net permits too much free and alternative speech, and other uncontrolled transactions, at too cheap a cost. Hence the efforts to make everybody identify themselves, as a first step towards eventually tagging your unique person to every action you perform online---which can then be tracked and taxed.
     
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  6. twilightofidols

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    It's not that people are necessarily scared of them. It's that basing your business model around something potentially illegal is a bad long-term strategy and while BHW isn't really the place to talk about morals when it comes into blatant illegal advertising that's a whole new territory. Basically, illegal business model = the bigger you get the more likely you'll get busted. In other words the greater the success, the greater the paranoia that's why I discourage such a model.

    And while the feds don't focus on the little guy. Believe me, if you're in the wrong place at the wrong time. They will get you. And you will use every resource in your power to fight back, and the US bureaucracy will stomp you like an elephant. How do I know this? I've been there. And I'm not a criminal, I was a college kid.
     
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    if you are doing things in limitations there is no need to worry about any thing :)
     
  8. thedorf

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    That's funny, I've not heard that before but I bet it is more true than one would think.
     
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    Every time they pass a new law in the United States, or one of their government agencies squats out a new regulation, more marketing services move offshore. And it certainly applies for bulk E-mail (aka SPAM).

    Sanford Wallace has been investigated by the Feds, sued by Facebook and slapped with a $700 million judgement, etc.
    Serving time in prison for sending SPAM, Edward Davidson escaped and committed a murder/suicide.

    If you live in the USA and the above looks like it offers a poor ROI, then consider yourself smart. If you don't live in the USA, SPAM away! :)

    PS: Despite what the article says about Edward Davidson, Sanford Wallace was indeed the king of spam.
     
  10. SNB321

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    Do everything but do it in proper manner instead of spamming!

    Top companies are doing Email Marketing but in proper manner!