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Why am I not ranking? See my site stats

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Burberry, Oct 7, 2015.

  1. Burberry

    Burberry Registered Member

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    I've been trying pretty hard to rank and for a few of my keywords, I've been stuck on page 2/3. Here is my competition comparison from MarketSamurai and my website stats at the top. What do I need to get on to top my competition? I've bought hundreds of PBN links... manually made web 2.0's, PBN links, blog commenting, etc...

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  2. laur.laurix

    laur.laurix Power Member

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    I think u answered own question - "I bought hundreds of pbn links" in 99% of cases buying links from a public provider will result in a loss of ranking or a penalty.
     
  3. LeanLow

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    TF/CF almost 3 time the difference. abandon the site > cut the loses > learn more about PBNs > start new.


    There are 2 kind of PBN links, and 2 kind of PBN link users.

    First king of PBN links are toxic / low quality
    Second king of PBN links are not toxic / good or at least decent quality

    First king of PBN link users don't know what they are doing, they buy shitload of links and use same anchor text, which gets them penalized along the road.
    Second king of PBN link users know how to tell the difference between shitty and golded PBN links, they know how to use anchor text diversity, and most of the time they get good ROI.

    That's the cold hard truth.
     
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  4. RomieNo

    RomieNo Newbie

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    You need better quality links, focus upon authority rather than volume of links.
     
  5. Burberry

    Burberry Registered Member

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    So I should scrap this site and start a new one? Is that the best option now? Or should I still continue to try to build links? So in other words SAPE links and PBN links off of BHW are no good?
     
  6. lord1027

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    Seems like low quality PBN, it's possible you will get slapped soon. Personally, I would start all over and be more careful. Don't forget about link diversity.
     
  7. Burberry

    Burberry Registered Member

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    But manually building PBNs and buying up domains, etc seems like a lot of work. I figured not many people would actually go through making all their links themselves. Is there anything I should keep an eye out for when I'm buying links?
     
  8. Leroyxxx

    Leroyxxx Junior Member

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    Yes. Buy links only from trusted, reliable sellers with good reviews. Don't go into quantity so much, but in quality.
     
  9. Ambassy

    Ambassy BANNED BANNED

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    The first thing that springs to mind is the 12 TF.
    Sorry to say but your "SEO" attempt is pretty laughable.
     
  10. Asif WILSON Khan

    Asif WILSON Khan Executive VIP Jr. VIP

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    Dude, you either build manually or have the funds to buy decent links.
    If you are spending money on shitty links then it won't do anything for you.
    90% of links you see for sale are shit sold by clowns, if you are buying links talk to the providers, see who knows their stuff and is selling quality.
    Decent links cost real money.
     
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    iulianalex Power Member

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    If you buy spamy PBN links eg 500 at only 50$ is normal results
     
  12. Burberry

    Burberry Registered Member

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    I never bought any PBN links that were that cheap.

    Should I 301 redirect the old site to the new one or should I just start completely fresh?
     
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    Just focus on your content and high quality links so that your site looks natural to google. Avoid spammy PBNs.
     
  14. MySeoEmail

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    It would be nice to see if someone of you could recommend some decent services?
     
  15. Jack Torrance

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    Buying good PBN links? No chance. Is there a single provider in the world selling good links? Don't think so... $500 a month, $1,000 a month, you're just getting different qualities of dog sh!t, either way it's still dog sh!t, one is just a bit more polished than the other.
     
  16. Peter Ngo

    Peter Ngo Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Well, buying SEO is an art, it will take some time to know who really know their stuffs..

    My advice is that, stay away from those giving out report but ALWAYS ask for sample. That is the hard truth i've learnt for the past few years.

    Here are a few things you should do when asking for samples, and i have personally experienced it.
    1. Check if their samples have any OBL of their client sites, if yes, then you know this is a BIG no no.
    2. Try to find footprint of their sample, if you can't find any, then good, go on.
    3. Check their metric as if it is as they advertised.
    4. Check backlinks profile of their sample, i have seen those sell blogpost from domains that has 4 backlinks from 1 referring domain LOL, and that is why they have TF25+.

    Here is the reason why i always ask for sample before buying:
    1. This is just such a big loophole to exploit, and it is just too easy to seller to say "no sample and no report" to protect our network. I call it BS, they can always create 1 sample and host it totally seperated from their network. No report is a big yes, but no sample is pure scam.

    2. This happened to me once, a seller sent me a sample with links from SAPE (LOL). Yes it has TF20 but it spammed to death. He then launched another service, i asked for samples again he went "no sample to protect the network", you see the pattern? It is an excuse to rip off noobs.

    If you want to stay in the safer side when buying SEO, stick with reputable sellers, they are usually a lil bit more expensive, but worth it in my opinion.

    Just my 2cent though
     
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  17. Burberry

    Burberry Registered Member

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    Thanks for the tips, really appreciate it.

    When looking at site statistics. Would it matter if a site has PageRank 0 but has 28+ TF/CF?
     
  18. davids355

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    I won't give advise here because I have learnt more from the comments that others have posted. I am going to straight away install my copy of market samurai now and check my own site that is sitting on page 2 :) ...........
     
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    How long have you been stuck on page 2/3? Sometimes it just takes time to get "unstuck".
     
  20. Peter Ngo

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    Well, IT still maters if a site has a TF/CF of 28+, because the last time PR update was by the late 2013, which is 2 years go. So many sites may have gained authority links during that 2 years period.

    But the problem is that genuine 28+ TF/CF is extremely hard to find, and TF25+ domains can be easily manipulated with 1-2 high TF links.

    That is why some PBN posts you bought in the marketplace have literally no power, let say OBL of their domain's homepage is 30, that means your site only get 1/30 link juice of those 1-2 backlinks, which is ridiculously low for the average price of 5-6$ per blogpost, oh not to mention it will roll out to 2nd and 3rd pages,etc. :|

    So usually what i do, i look at PR --> TF --> history check--> backlinks profile check. I have been disagreed a few times here but still, i would say backlinks profile is the most important when choosing a domain to place your links.

    Anyway, just my 2cent though.