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Wholesale Hookups - Dropshipping Section is Way Out of Hand

Discussion in 'Forum Suggestions & Feedback' started by BassTrackerBoats, Sep 18, 2014.

  1. BassTrackerBoats

    BassTrackerBoats Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Any common Joe can go in that section and offer anything at all without one tidbit of vetting. They are doing the EXACT same thing as a BST and no member protection.

    That section needs a vetting process, needs to charge to post a new thread and needs to set a minimum amount of posts before one can open a thread.

    Totally out of control and unfettered... it is like the wild wild west in there.

    Case in point below:

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...month-wildly-successful-sex-toy-business.html
     
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  2. sturose

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    Agreed. If members must buy JR VIP to offer a service on here then why shouldn't it be the same for wholesalers and dropshippers?
     
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  3. proxygo

    proxygo Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    simple to resolve this move Wholesale Hookups - Dropshipping Section
    over to BST section, problem solved. then its under mod jurisdiction
    personally anything related to selling should fall under BST section
     
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  4. everythingred

    everythingred Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Made a thread about this before but it didn't do squat. I hope the mods can put that change into effect. I can't remember one person having received any 'authentic' items and leaving a positive review there.
     
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  5. Apricot

    Apricot Administrator Staff Member Moderator

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    Sounds good to me. I'll look at reworking the rules over the next week. Post any suggestions here or feel free to PM me a suggestion for a rules list.
     
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  6. JoeMongan

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    I think simply just make it where the person has to be a Jr.VIP

    -RK
     
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  7. BassTrackerBoats

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    Make them pay, RK, those of us that have BST's pay for that privilege and are happy to do so.

    Same should apply in this situation.
     
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    I made a thread in this section on 9/7 and didn't get any responses. Same complaint. The wholesale/dropshipping section is a breeding factory for fraud.
     
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  9. JoeMongan

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    You're right BTB...I see what you mean. It's only fair for cost of business to be the same and keeps
    everything the same for start up cost. I had to pay my fee to sell here.

    Let me mention a few things though...

    1. If someone only had stock of 3-4 items its not worth the listing fee etc to the sell them.

    2. With a Mod stamp of approval it will make new guys more trusting. And its not like the seller
    is going to send the Mod an expensive item to their address for a review copy.

    3. What happens to all the old threads?


    -RK
     
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  10. sturose

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    1. If they only have 3-4 items they can list them on ebay. What would be the point of making a wholesale/dropship thread if they had such a small amount of stock?

    2. Obviously the mods can't be expected to verify physical products in the same way as they do virtual goods so some thought would need to go into that. Maybe a photo of the stock with timestamp and a handwritten code generated by the verifying mod.

    3. If old thread starters are not willing to upgrade to Jr VIP and pay for a business listing then their thread should be deleted.

    Scammers will always find a way round the system but we as a community can just make it as difficult as possible without being prohibitive to genuine traders.

    If these wholesalers were to list their business in a popular B2B directory they would be expected to pay for the privilege. Why should they get free advertising here?
     
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  11. proxygo

    proxygo Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    just re shuffle Hookups - Dropshipping Section
    into the BST area as a new category added on

    will solve alot of headaches and less hassle for mods
     
  12. Apricot

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    Thanks guys, this is all really useful. I know we get sucked into various things and are CONSTANTLY busy, but this will be something that'll take priority over the next week.

    Keep them coming!
     
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  13. proxygo

    proxygo Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    another thing that needs looking into is the BST RULES
    rules say to advert a product 100 posts 2 month account 97$ vip account

    i found 25-30 sellers in the bst section still selling no vip/donor rank

    trying to figure out how come we all pay our yearly subs to have our bsts
    yet these 25/30 people i found are running bsts with expired un paid vip

    so question is, is vip required yearly to retain a bst, or is vip only required to
    get the bst, but when it expires u dont have to re new it, would help to
    clarify this as its not in the rules.

    and those 25/30 running there bsts with a none vip rank is possibly 3k $ in
    lost revenue to bhw
     
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    Thats great, I haven't visited the section in 3 years since last time I did it was full of scammers selling "legit" 200$ Iphones
     
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    Let me add my 2 cents to this from the viewpoint of a supplier:

    1. The interest in physical goods to be drop shipped ( or bought in bulk ) seems to be high but it ain't so. Most post's are simple 1 liner's - " pm'ed you, send me a catalog"

    But you never ever see a follow up. No " hey, this guy is doing a great job " / " done some biz with him and everything is good "

    So it's reasonable to say that a lot ( almost tempted to say most ) of these 1 liners serve only the purpose to up the post count.

    2. The hardest part for a supplier is to find / source items that are profitable to the buyer / re seller and still make some profit to the supplier. I know, I spend at least 1 full day every single week with sourcing and many times I come up empty handed.

    It took 2 full years to have 200 products that are legal to ship, safe to sell on ebay or Amazon, make me and the seller profit and keep the customers happy with their purchase.
    Most of these products are in niches that do not have 5 or higher digits listings on ebay, meaning I will not supply the same stuff to a hoard of ebay sellers and see the market ruined.

    BUT I would like to supply sellers in different Countries. And there is the catch. I will not give out the product list to some Joe Blow who claims to be in Australia for example, just to find out that he is really in New York and enjoys now 2 years of my hard work.

    3. I assume that most of the posters in the D&W section do not have any funds available to buy anything to start with. Drop shipping is - my personal opinion - pretty much dead when it comes to selling on ebay or Amazon IF you have a supplier / drop shipper in China or any other Asian Country for that matter. Tracking doesn't work for shit, ship times are long and most of the profit goes down the drain for international ship cost.

    So why bother at all with a section here that does not do any good for either serious suppliers or buyers ?

    What I would like to see done is to create a supplier / buyer section that is only accessible to Jr. VIP. It may be incorporated with the existing Jr. VIP section.

    Have suppliers vetted thoroughly. A real supplier will not hesitate to supply B/L's and contacts from freight forwarders, tracking numbers from previous shipments etc. to a Mod so he can verify that the supplier is the real deal. That is work and cost time and money so a compensation for that is called for.

    There are people here from all corners of the globe. A LOT of money can be made from selling physical goods. All that is needed is a solid platform for suppliers and buyers to touch base. A somewhat safe platform so the buyer knows that the supplier is not full of it and the supplier can be somewhat sure that he is not wasting time and effort with some kid who is just fishing.



    Look at my post count. 30 something ? In what ? At least 3 month because I had to change my password here already. It may take me another 6 month just to get to the 100 required for Jr. VIP but I don't post shit.
     
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  16. BassTrackerBoats

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    Very Strong post!



     
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