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Who Should I believe Long tail pro vs Keyword Revealer

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by damagesmith, Apr 30, 2017.

  1. damagesmith

    damagesmith Regular Member

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    I am doing some keyword research and i have seen the following many times. But here is one quick example


    For my term.

    Keyword Revealer says a certain phrase has a compettiness of 15. Very low
    While Long tail pro says it is 51.

    My gut tells me Long tail pro is more accurate. as it was a 2 word phrase. But
    Thought i would post and get other more experienced opinions.
     
  2. Holzr

    Holzr Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Do your own research. Best thing to do is check the actual SERP results, Backlinks (Ahrefs) domain age, authority etc. No KW difficulty tool is perfect so that's why I also manually check aero results. :)
     
  3. virtualbyron

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    For me Keyword Revealer is not accurate at all, I don't use LT since a long time but from my point of view the most accurate tool is MOZ, anyways you will have to check manually to know if it's really low competition or not.
     
  4. damagesmith

    damagesmith Regular Member

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    If you see Amazon.com, Walmart.com, target.com
    Are those type of sites automatically high competition sites?
     
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    Not as such, they have high DA but usually low PA plus often they have zero on page.

    You need to check the backlinks etc of the Top 10 sites.
     
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    None of the tools are accurate in my opinion. For one, they can't see any PBN links or hidden backlinks of the sites ranking on page 1. Most of them also use Moz metrics which are probably the shittiest metrics.

    I've seen keywords that have very low scores on all the tools but page 1 is packed with affiliate sites that have PBN links.
     
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    It depends what KW your targeting . If it's a product name then don't bother as these sites will outrank you any day of the week. But if your targeting a review KW like "ultrashave5000 review" then it doesn't matter about amazon.com results on SERP as they are not optimizing for the KW in their on page so you'll be ok.
     
  8. neilbhabuta

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    Keyword revealer is definitely more accurate than both Moz and longtail pro. Longtail pro gives high comp for keywords that are piss easy to rank and so does Moz. Moz is great for other Seo related tasks but not keyword research.
     
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    Believe both and use them combined to set up your campaign.
     
  10. virtualbyron

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    Can you explain why the MOZ score competition is not great and less accurate than Keyword revealer?
    Can you elaborate more about these "SEO related tasks" for which, according to you, MOZ was created?

    Since MOZ is more expensive and largely recommended/used by the leaders of the SEO industry for keywords competition analyze I will be happy to know your point of view, thanks
     
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    kontentguy Regular Member UnGagged Attendee

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    ive always felt kw revealer has much more lenient scores than other tools
    the proof is that their kw dif scores are always lower than every other tool out there
     
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    I'm just saying my opinion mate... no need to get touchy. All I believe is that Moz isn't great for keyword research and a number of people would back me up on that. And in regards to it being used by the industry leaders for comp analysis, Can u send me any proof of that? I would be VERY surprised if it is.
     
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    re: moz being an industry leader i think what he means is that it is the most well known/corporate used tool/service
     
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    That's a sign of low competition more times than not actually. Just random high authority domains ranking for keywords bc there aren't sites offering more specific content.
     
  15. virtualbyron

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    Agree with that, for example I recently bought a keyword, the seller pretending it was 5 competition score but I checked with others tools and it was in reality 30+

    Ho because you talking like it's a fact... so you don't have any clue, you just use keywords revealer because the tool is less expensive and display lower score than others?

    From my personal experience based on the ranking of literally thousands ok keywords top3 on many niche, the competition score of keywords revealer is always lower and rarely relevant to the reality, so for these facts, I understand KW is used as a preferred tool by the "keywords reseller" but the MOZ competition score corresponds to the real difficulty of the SEO strategy that has to be set up to rank and remain the more accurate.
     
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  16. neilbhabuta

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    I'm not gonna argue with you as it would just crash this thread.
    In regards to it being cheaper, it isnt! It's the same price as the majority of keyword research tools and has in fact become more expensive.
     
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    I prefer kwfinder more for keyword competition analysis.
     
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  19. virtualbyron

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    You can't, that why, anyway sorry to bother you it seems you know your stuff
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    Also, I want to add a word, of course KW reavealer is less expensive than the inaccurate free tools you can find on the web
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  20. neilbhabuta

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    Moz and semrush are not keyword specific tools, the expensive aspect in them is the Sep analysis etc etc etc.
    Here is a list of keyword tools all around the same price that have very good reviews.
    Kwfinder
    Keysearch
    Keyword revealer
    Etc etc etc

    But yeah, u know your shit don't u? So just ignore all the evidence. I'm not gonna respond anymore as well as I'm not gonna crash this thread.