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Who Needs Gurus

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by monyluv7, May 5, 2009.

  1. monyluv7

    monyluv7 Registered Member

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    I'm pretty much a newbie and after reading a couple of threads, I'm thinkin WTF! Who needs gurus. I think I'll unsubscribe to their newsletters....uh.....I mean sales letters and hang out here. Much more fun, creative, helpful!:cat3:
     
  2. b0dzila

    b0dzila Regular Member

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    yes, you are right mate. you can find almost every information here and people on this forums are very supportive... welcome the real world of webmasters...
     
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  3. WizGizmo

    WizGizmo Super Moderator Staff Member Premium Member

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    It is a well known fact that many of the Gurus anonymously lurk BHW and rip ideas for new launches.

    "Wiz"
     
  4. gurujh

    gurujh Registered Member

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    Here is the thing. I subscribe to each and every one of the guru's I can find. Why? So I can watch what they do. NOT what they say they do. I have learned tons that way. I even get a kick out of watching how many of the so called guru's send out the same exact mailings to their list, thinking no other guru before them has sent it. Priceless.

    Oh, and I am no guru, its just my handle. It got coined with me doing IT work, and it stuck. Thinking about changed it to GuruBH, for BLACK HAT!
     
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  5. WizGizmo

    WizGizmo Super Moderator Staff Member Premium Member

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    To gurujh :

    Agreed . . . The trick is to study how the Gurus are selling to YOU. Ultimately, you will learn a lot more than whatever product/method they are trying to push. Watch how they build authority, use relationship marketing, use the law of reciprocity by giving you "free" stuff, always have lots of backends and upsells. THAT is the meat of marketing.

    Cheers! - "Wiz"
     
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  6. coreygeer

    coreygeer BANNED BANNED

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    You want to be a Guru?

    Step #1 - Get your own website with an Opt in form.
    Step #2 - Week after week, send them garbage e-mails about your new latest huge money maker.
    Step #3 - Price it for only $29.99, because that's what a million dollar opportunity should cost.
    Step #4 - Continue to make your own killer products and mailing them no valuable information, but sales pitches.

    You're now a Guru :) Congratulations.

    Also: If you would like free lessons on becoming a Guru, subscribe to the Bum Marketing e-mail opt in.. that should give you a good idea of one annoying Guru who probably converts the Indians pretty well.
     
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  7. letusgo

    letusgo Junior Member

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    yes,i've seen so-called guru rip and re-decorate ideas from BHW and then share or sell to others. BS.
     
  8. madinaz

    madinaz BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    There are a lot of things you can learn from a "guru" but the main thing is how to hype a product. Like the saying goes people don't buy the steak they buy the sizzle and any good "guru" can make that sizzle sound so good that even a vegetarian would buy that steak. I have a few guru identity's that I'd never disclose to BHW members not because I occasionally build on an idea from here but because I don't want to get ripped for some of the crap products I've launched.

    I would say this pick a guru and learn from his techniques but don't fall for the hype if it's good you can find it here being shared but always remember if it's something good enough to keep and use it's something worth paying for.
     
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  9. gulp86

    gulp86 Junior Member

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    One more time WizGizmo screaming pieces of truth
     
  10. marginline

    marginline Newbie

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    Other gurus. ;)
     
  11. monyluv7

    monyluv7 Registered Member

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    And I love how they all JV each others products.