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Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Wombat, Nov 26, 2007.

  1. Wombat

    Wombat Registered Member

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    I think this topic needs discussing, so add your two cents worth.

    The name of the game is to get people to an affiliate landing page for dating or credit cards or free ringtones or viagra or lawnmowers or whatever, right?

    A White Hat will build a pretty little site with a carefully chosen domain name, and nicely written (or rewritten PLRs) and then.... no one comes.
    So off he goes to get links. He submits his site to social bookmarking sites. He writes and submits articles. He looks to trade links with others etc etc.
    He will be the first to tell you this takes time and hard work.

    A Black Hat makes a site and.... no one comes. So he spams the shit out of it and it gets banned by Google, or sandboxed or made supplementary or some other nasty thing.

    So now he makes a cloaked site pointing to his "money site" but.... no one comes because no one knows the cloaked site exists! So he spams the shit out of the cloaked site and IT gets banned!

    Are you starting to see a pattern here? It all boils down to backlinks. Whether you get them from submitting articles or spamming ten thousand guest books or blog comments, a backlink is a backlink.

    Now go to the blog of our new member Mark and read this post http://tinyurl.com/2fy35b
    Seriously READ THAT PAGE and keep reading it until you understand it.
    Isn't that amazing?

    What does it take? A trick to get "your own page" on the Orange site and then spam a lot of guestbooks to make that page rank for the desired keywords. That's it! The "real site" he made isn't important. It doesn't need to rank at all. The Orange site does the work.

    So what is Google going to do? Ban Orange? Yeah right. Ban all the guestbooks you spammed? Hardly.

    Now search Google for "buy Viagra" or similar terms.

    You will see that a number of the high ranking sites aren't sites at all. They are using the "Orange trick" or pointing to a page on a free web host. That page is keyword stuffed and has a crappy javascript redirect to the affiliate landing page.

    Think this through. They are ranking in the top 5 or 10 for the most competitive terms in the world and they don't even have a site!!!!

    What they DO have is 100,000 backlinks and you can bet they didn't get them because people recommended their non-existent site.

    So lets cut to the chase and talk about the best tools for mass spamming.
     
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  2. gokarter

    gokarter Regular Member

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    Very interesting !! Great Read ,going to have to look into this some more
    Thanks
     
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  3. mattm136

    mattm136 Newbie

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    That is awesome, I will be trying this with my first BH site. Wonder how long before it gets shot down by Google
     
  4. BlackSeo

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    I think a variant is if we use SEclicker from SOS, I know most of their software is buggy,but maybe I can get something from it?.

    I was using SEclicker in a subdomain,never indexed bY google,now I got a domain and
    will try SEclicker plus the info from Wombat post.

    BlackSeo
     
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  5. gts6

    gts6 Executive VIP

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    this is a good technique, ive been doing something similar for awhile with blog farms. basically doing everything to get the blog farms to rank, and not worrying about the money sites. then have the blogs cloak to the money sites when humans pull them up in the searches.

    it is easier to get a better ranking for the blogs because they are changing because they should be always updated and pinging. my money sites are usually static and they never change. SE's generally are more favorable to sites with fresher content.
     
  6. satan

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    Another great idea, thanks!
     
  7. kadin

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    Thank you Wombat for this, one question please, what is the safe search that the article warns us to turn off?
     
  8. battman323

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    Wow great post thanks for sharing. I'm going shopping for SPAM baby!
     
  9. astro18

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    Good info! i will try that soon with my new website
     
  10. Nester

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    Thanks Will Look in to
     
  11. AboutBizz

    AboutBizz Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Great insights. He also has a great list of Over 160 Relevant Link Following Blogs on his site. Good job Wombat
     
  12. pchrulski

    pchrulski Newbie

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    great read
     
  13. 10k

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    But what to use for link spamming??
     
  14. astro18

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    i will be also interseting in a good link spamming tool
     
  15. markdigerati

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    Hi guys. Thanks for the positive comments on the post, I've found it works really welll :) Wombat, FYI, even if you use a tinyurl, the URL of this post still comes up in Google Analytics :eek:

    As a note, it works on weather.com aol.com and all sorts as well... Make sure you try and find a search term that doesn't return PPC results too :)
     
  16. Peterboro

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    Thanks. Good information and a lot to think about.
     
  17. webhat

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    Hey Mark, glad that you join here.
    This thread made me a regular visitor to your blog too.
     
  18. seo101

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    nice read.. also he's giving away his free guestbook spamming tool..