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Who is the biggest name in black hat SEO?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by macdonjo3, Jul 4, 2016.

  1. macdonjo3

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    Rand Fishkin is quite possibly the biggest name in SEO, but he's strictly white hat. Neil Patel has a massive following too, but I don't think he'll touch BH. Would it be Matthew Woodward, even tho he's gone-guru?

    Note, I don't care how much they actually know, but rather how many people actually follow them and their work.
     
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    I would also be interested in knowing this!
     
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    Think most bh people don't like to share their methods too much. Haven't really seen any genuine bh orientated blogs that are worth remembering.
     
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    They make {big/small} money = you gain {lots of/false} knowledge.

    Fuck this Illusion of Authority.
     
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    I am very familiar with the name of the name, but thanks for sharing
     
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  6. Ste Fishkin

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    Charles Floate made the BBC news website.

    Surely it's him?
     
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    People who make big with BH and know a lot of it probably stay away from fame !
     
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    Those in BH stays under the radar, else they will no more be in BH
     
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    Strange but I get this vibe that maybe you want to know so you can reach out to them and do some type of venture? Or use the name in some type of post..

    Could be completely wrong but it just seems like a random question

    Thing is the true blackhats are so good no one knows who they are.. thats kinda how it works

    As far as those known for it though...

    I would have to say GODOFSEO Charles Floate - ( I mean have you read his ebook? ITS ALL OUT WARFARE HERE ) Hes pretty much what you see when specifically looking for blackhat stuff.

    I can't help but feel that the whole "blackhat" title is mostly used to draw in noobs and sell "secret" services and "knowledge" to them

    Oh and speaking of knawlege

    Here in my garage, I'm gunna tell you about one of the biggest blackhats that people don't know thats how he got started. (albeit probably all whitehat now)
    (oh yeah and just dumping large amounts of money into youtube ads)

    Tai Lopez

    and you know what I like to call out more then Tai Lopez

    FAKE or Converted WHITEHATS

    There are SO many big name whitehats now that started with blackhat then made the shift. Honestly thats kinda the point. One of the main reasons people go blackhat is to get money when they don't really have the money to just dump it into advertising like the big names... sure sure there is other things but MOST start as blackhats simply because you can't compete with already rich people dumping large amounts of advertising into your niche. Not to mention the ability they have to hire all the best people for content and what not. Takes money to make money. More money you have more money you will make.
    Can be done without it but you can bet your ass its going to be hard as shit compared to if you just have a lot to just dump at it and not worry about things like you know having to pay bills and support a family, your debt.. the list goes on.

    I've noticed a lot of big whitehats follow and talk about these blackhat guys quite a bit.. why do you think that is? hmmm
     
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  11. davids355

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    Matthew woodward stuff is pretty interesting. The only other SEO guy that I know of is viper chill but I dont really know his background.
    Other than that, I agree with others that most people doing BH methods are more than likely trying to keep out of the public eye for obvious reasons.
     
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  12. macdonjo3

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    LOL he's not known in the SEO world from that, but maybe cyber crime world
     
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    Ya, actually @Leith recommended Viper Chill too. Good call, and he seems to be a nice guy from the email exchanges today.
     
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    Jacob king is a black hat SEO guy. He's also got a paid forum where he teaches blackhat ranking techniques
     
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    Could be Shawn Hogan and Brian Dunning if they haven't get caught.
     
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  17. macdonjo3

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    That's true. You also reminded me of Brian Dean.
     
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    I have far more respect for some of the members here than Woodward or fucking {Niel|Neil|Nil} Patel
     
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    Matthew is a bigger name but i really like Jacob way better than him. Although I follow none of them but Jacob's content is often very good and he doesn't seem to be a money-whore on his personal blog which is good for a change.
     
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    Wow, no mention of ceoSam here!?