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Who is the BEST here on BHW to get difficult keywords rank spot 1 -5 ???

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by RuthSam, Aug 7, 2014.

  1. RuthSam

    RuthSam Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Hi,

    I'm sick and tired to buy service here from BHW which are simply not work, some seem to work for 1 - 3 weeks (at least they get me spot 20) and then everything goes back to crap again.

    What is the solution to stay ranked and even to get on spot 1 -5 ?

    Keywd has 1900 searches / month and the other has 4000 - however, the AdWords price starts at $40 each click!

    Any Idea who may be able to do the magic?
     
  2. tony_d

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    How competitive is it?
    If you share a summary of the top 10, ie from keywordrevealer.com, we can collectively be more helpful to you.
     
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  3. jack81

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    No seller can guarantee long term ranking, if he does that then he is an idiot.
     
  4. BreaknBrix

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    If it was me, I'd use 1 of 2 people.

    Bluematter - Dude in my sig. However, keep in mind I'm not being paid to promote his service I promote it only because I like, trust and respect that he knows his shit.

    Ceasar SEO - You can find his service over on WaFo. I've been using him for 2 years and he's one of the best I know of. I've spent more than $15k on his service and have put about $200k in the bank just from sites he's ranked for me (all local sites).

    DISCLAIMER: SEO will always take 2 to tango. And there is always risk involved. The more you know however, the less the risk you face. The reason I personally like Ceasar so much is first time I used him he ranked me #1 both locally AND nationally for a very competitive local term. He did the same thing on my second site and that second site has been ranking for 18 months straight. Lately I have not been making as much as I normally do (it's a long story) but I have a new site filled out with almost 1000 pages of content, it's aged about 9 months, and I plan on sending it directly to Ceasar. I also have a 2nd site I'm finishing up now and plan on sending that 1 to bluematter. Their both in similar competition niches, similar sites, this way I can really compare who is better than who.
     
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  5. GalaxyRank

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    Nice question !!!
     
  6. RuthSam

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    43 Somewhat High Competition

    I tried to make a second search but now this tool is showing only the same keyword again.. however, hope the above gives some indication.
     
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    A dream doesn't become reality through magic; it takes sweat, determination and hard work. I have them.. try me.. :)
     
  8. PrinceVisi

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    There is a lot more to SEO then just buying a service.

    You have to make your website as more SEO friendly as possible to rip off the benefits of the services here.
     
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    without knowing the kw competitiveness we cant say anything bro

    PM me your site and kw's lets see what can we do for it

    most of the marketplace services are not working now and only wasting money

    PM me if you like to know whats wrong and whats work for me
     
  10. Ghoast

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    It all depends if you have the investment..

    Proper SEO starts at around $1500 per month - let me explain:

    The HQ content that is required for a good campaign is not cheap, add that to the cost of building web properties and it gets expensive.

    Now add this number to the cost of hiring a professional to put it all together for you..

    Someone who knows what they're doing with SEO can make a lot of money in various ways, so if they put their expertise to your campaign, it's gonna cost.

    PM me if you'd like a more accurate breakdown of where these costs go.
     
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    Anyone who can rank for profitable keywords in the long term will do this for his own sites. What would be the monetary motivation for such a person to sell services to help others to rank?

    What you should be looking for is not someone who will sell you his services, but a mentor who would share for free information that will help you do this yourself.

    Just my two cents...
     
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  12. RuthSam

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    Point taken ;) This makes sense.. not sure if it's possible to find such a person but may give it a try.
     
  13. edgey

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    Just be aware that in bluematter's latest seo service thread, he recommends it as being only for "churn and burn" sites - not for long-term properties - I appreciate his honesty on this.
     
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    This is exactly right. Like, 100% exactly right. (in my opinion :p)
    The number of clients that would be willing to pay my hourly rate (calculated from what I earn by doing 'my own stuff') would be significantly small.
     
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    Sorry to break it to you, but this is utter bullcrap.

    Both are different business models and even if you have a team and strategies that work in order to rank "websites", you still need to invest time, money and moreover, take a risk (as you do when you invest in ANYTHING).

    Offering marketing services will provide you with a lot less reward than doing it yourself, however, you are getting paid and you are not under any risk of investment (yea, your reputation and your company's is at stake of course).

    Bear in mind that when it comes to largely profitable business, you do not only require a simple shitty ass idea. If you are going for the millions, you are going to want to make a LARGE investment and get different teams as well as a nice office where you can have them working.

    All in all, if your aim is to generate some Ks without any proper setup, sure thing, go ahead; grab gsa, buy some content and you are done...

    My company takes clients from 1k to 150k a month and the reason behind it is very clear and straight forward, you are offering solid services and building a portfolio of trust that will allow you to work on a solid corporate client base.

    Don't confuse the two different models, one is running a business and taking the risks and the other is to offer services to help established businesses.

    Of course, when you think of this from the "BHW" perspective, where investing $500 a month is somewhat of a horror story and you expect to become Bill Gates, this does not make a lot of sense :)
     
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    ^ to reyone.

    if you got a method to rank #1 in google , just give me one reason why you will sell it as a service instead of ranking your own sites ?

    having local/corporate clients is a different thing then selling seo service to bhatters.
    -=-
     
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  17. Ghoast

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    I'll give you a reason prab,

    Because it's a completely different business model as Reyone said above..

    There are tons of keywords in awesome niches, that to have your own site you've got to be a supplier of a product..

    Think MASSIVE technical/industrial B2B Niches.

    If you wanted to rank your own site in one of these niches, you'd also need to supply these products (no great aff systems for industrial mining equipment! lol)

    By doing SEO for companies and organizations like this, you get paid a TON because they are making a TON and it's on a steady monthly basis.

    Basically meaning you get to play in a ton of niches that you otherwise wouldn't and you've got the added bonus of ranking a large brand, that is possibly established offline already.

    There are 2 huge reasons to do client SEO right there..

    Unlocks more niches
    Regular Payment
    Can Get started straight away
    Only have to concentrate on the SEO - no sales or conversions..
     
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    Umm.. money? maybe ? no ? okay..
     
  19. wizdorf

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    I don't bother with any BST on this forum or others, those are the ones that get slapped by Google when they feel frisky.

    I use a few different high pagerank homepage networks that are referral or invite only.
     
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    I agree with you 100%, you hit the nail on the head in my humble opinion.

    The SEO who is really an expert and sells SEO services, does not have to take all of the risks that the one building the website and promoting it does. Not only that, but there are numerous unmentionable benefits to not having the direct "risk" involved with SEO. As we all have seen in the past, here today, gone tomorrow...
     
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