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Who is making money with YouTube ? ? ? ? Analyzing the potential video market

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  1. tony-raymondo

    tony-raymondo Junior Member

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    One of the hardest friggin things to find in the world, is some sort of description about how much money YouTube stars make.

    If you look on the youtube page itself, they direct you here - to an absolutely worthless page: http://www.youtube.com/t/partnerships_success

    It seems to be the case that Fred and iJustine make a few hundred thousand dollars a year (on purely channel income)

    But how much does the more "typical youtuber make"? - a typical dude who is "mildly popular" -- with video views in the, say, tens of thousands or less?

    There are several youtube videos in which, youtubers say they "make enough to pay the bills". So I assume several of them are at least making a coupled thousand a month.


    Question:

    Would a "volume approach" to youtube work? For example, the thing about YouTube is almost no one there understands SEO, and no one properly fills out the video description box.

    So one wonders, if you were to, say, put up thousands upon thousands of videos, and give the title some sort of keyword phrase from the Google Keyword Tool, could you make money?

    e.g. even if the videos were not that great, but were SEO optimized. And, moreover, even if the videos only got a few hundred views a year -- could the fact that you produced thousands upon thousands of videos, actually enable you to make a good living?

    Any ideas?

    Thanks!
     
  2. tony-raymondo

    tony-raymondo Junior Member

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  3. Autumn

    Autumn Elite Member

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    You can make a couple of grand a month simply from Youtube uploads without making a complete gaybo of yourself in public videos.
     
  4. tony-raymondo

    tony-raymondo Junior Member

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    please please - do tell us more

    or PM me

    thanks! :)
     
  5. Autumn

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    1) Find niche CPA offers you want to promote.
    2) Set up Brad's CPA redirector pointing to those offers on your own easily type-able domain or short url. Geotarget the traffic and try to send your foreign traffic to a similar offer.
    3) Scrape Youtube search results for keywords related to your offer and niche.
    4) Download those videos.
    5) Watermark the videos with your url and put a little pre/post roll ad for your url on the vids as well.
    6) Sign up for 8 zillion Youtube accounts.
    7) Upload said videos to said accounts, a few per account.
    8) Profit!

    There's more you can do like buying / increasing your views to get better positions in the Youtube search results, but that's it in a nut shell. There's a whole Youtube board here, read up!
     
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  6. tony-raymondo

    tony-raymondo Junior Member

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    ah

    that's pretty cool

    ya i realize there's ways to use youtube as a traffic generator.

    but i'm mostly talking about getting paid via youtube itself.

    e.g. getting paid for the videos and the views
     
  7. MikeHustle

    MikeHustle Power Member

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    I just got the lil youtube make money email 2 weeks ago, but it says your videos must be original content. All my video are reuploaded big booty, big breast, tight arse, sexy girl videos... So I see joining as a way to get my account banned!
     
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  8. tony-raymondo

    tony-raymondo Junior Member

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    ya i got the same email last month.

    i upload tv shows.

    you can't make youtube money that way.

    you must own the content.

    additionally, you can't make money with videos that feature soundtracks.

    you must own the music too.
     
  9. Autumn

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    I just don't see the point of putting in all the effort to make your own vids if all you want to do is make money. If you wanted so be a celebrity then that would be different but if all you want to do is make a buck then automated blackhat methods are so much more compelling.
     
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  10. tony-raymondo

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    i dunno

    is it easier to use youtube as a traffic funnel, than as a revenue producing engine in itself?

    thats the question i'm trying to answer.

    I mean, if i can go to the pet store, and take 900 videos of kittens in 24 hours, and, further, if these videos make me 100 bucks a day, then that sounds pretty good.

    However, if this is not realistic, then perhaps no.

    I haven't seen a business model that has examined the "bulk uploading" question yet so i'm looking for ideas.
     
  11. Autumn

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    Option 1: invest time up front building a bulk uploading solution and then crank out the uploads in a mostly automated way.

    Option 2: invest considerable time manually making "quality" videos on an ongoing basis.

    Option 1: Google bans your automated accounts and you lose it all.

    Option 2: Google decides to keep your Adsense / Youtube revenue for some trivial bullshit infraction and you lose it all.

    I'd say only a tiny handful of the most popular Youtube video hosts can actually make a living from it or any substantial amount of money and they get millions upon millions of views. For example I've alternately read claims that the FPSRussia guy makes 6 figures a year and that he basically just gets gun and ammo sponsorship... I assume the truth is somewhere in the middle.

    If you're matching specific CPA offers and specific content you can make good money on a lot less views. Both have their own share of headaches, but I would say that your chance of making a living income is much higher from uploads vs making unique vids.

    If you wanted to make a million dollars from Youtube you'd probably be better off going the celebrity route, but unless you are exceptionally creative or charismatic your chances of success would be slim.
     
  12. tony-raymondo

    tony-raymondo Junior Member

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    well what i'm trying to figure out is:

    can seemingly benign videos (that have SEO optimized titles) generate a significant revenue -- if you have enough of them.

    e.g. this has 1.8 million views:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_EsxukdNXM
     
  13. Autumn

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    You can make a little money from vids like that if you advertise generic CPA offers... If there's enough traffic, you can always make something because a small proportion of the viewership will always click through and sign up. But if you target the vids more then you will make much more money.

    The money is not in shitty cow or funny cat videos... The money is in putting up vids of big booty sluts with ads for cam sites, or putting up forex videos with links to a forex affiliate program, or putting up vids about how to get a job with links to a get-a-job CPA offer.
     
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  14. tony-raymondo

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    Thanks

    Does anyone have any idea how much money a cow video with 1.8 million views makes per day?

    If I had some perspective this would help
     
  15. MikeHustle

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    Think of it this way: What kinds of ads is google going to show to viewers of mooing cows?

    You'll make more scratch with cpa offers and building a list. Guru type stuff seems to still work well there--- mix self-help with some blackhat magic.
     
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    Most people just simply get a cpa offer that is somewhat "Hot".

    Select a niche related to the CPA offer which is also in trend (You can check stats like this via quantcast and even via youtube trends.

    Then they use a mass upload tool/youtube marketing tool and upload hundreds of the videos (Obviously each video is unique and its usually done by watermarking or micro pixel integration in each vid).

    Then its just a case of promoting the video with likes , views etc and even backlinking.

    But there is alot of competition :)
     
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    I've never been a Youtube partner, but I take note when those I'm subbed to talk about being partners, usually people with a couple thousand subscribers who upload regularly, the picture I get is they average about $1 per 1,000 views. Most of them seem blissfully unaware of keywords and SEO and continue making videos as they did before, with the emphasis always on gaining more subscribers.
     
  18. tony-raymondo

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    1 dollar per 1,000 views?

    hmm

    So that would mean the cow video made about 1,800 bucks.

    That's not great.

    But then again, it didn't cost much to make either.

    And, will be making money for years to come.

    So still I wonder, will a keyword-optimized volume approach work...
     
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    Listen to autumn, he knows his shit.

    with a solid plan, a few hundred $ investment, and a couple of days of time you can really start making some decent income off youtube -- even better if you know the ins and outs of youtubes "banning game"
     
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