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Who is here good with CPA/iFrame?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by SpellZ, Sep 12, 2011.

  1. SpellZ

    SpellZ Regular Member

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    I have a website running and want to integrate CPA, but-- Okay... Cards on the table, I don't know how the CPA/iFrames work (not my field at all). Because from what I understand, iFrames are against Terms Of Agreement for CPA companies? But... In any case...

    If you're a 'good member' here, and knows about CPA/iFrames.. Maybe some PHP? I can show you my site, and will tell you where I want to integrate it, and I guess I just need your advice on "Yeah, it'll work" or "No, it won't work"

    Cheers
     
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  3. SpellZ

    SpellZ Regular Member

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    Hmm...

    So how can I make extra $$$? LOL

    I have people entering their email on my website on average 4000 people a month, I want to insert some sort of E-MAIL SUBMIT underneath it... $4000/month didn't hurt no one yet...
     
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    cyadron Registered Member

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    I might be able to help you... PM me.
     
  5. artizhay

    artizhay BANNED BANNED

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    PM me with what you're trying to do, your site link, details, etc. I'll give you my thoughts.

    And of course it's against most ToS, but this is a blackhat forum for goodness sake. Everyone gets all scared when someone brings up something blackhat. Jeez.
     
  6. businessminder

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    iFraming is always against the Terms of Use. (From my experience)

    What you need to do is:

    - Setup a landing page iframing the offer on a separate domain, say: http://www.domainwithiframe.com
    - Now iframe http://www.domainwithiframe.com on http://www.yourdomain.com

    Here's the trick, on http://www.domainwithiframe.com
    - Only display the iframed page when the HTTP_REFERER is http://www.yourdomain.com
    - Display a page framing the actual offer when there's no HTTP_REFERER or when the HTTP_REFERER is not http://www.yourdomain.com Or you can simply redirect to the offer when there's no HTTP_REFERER or when the HTTP_REFERER is not http://www.yourdomain.com

    This way when networks check for your traffic sources they would see it coming from http://www.domainwithiframe.com but they would see their offer framed (instead of just iframing the optin box), displaying the entire offer framed is fine.

    However, nothing is bullet proof. If your visitors report directly to the advertisers, for example: "I opt'ed in for a gaming newsletter on http://www.yourdomain.com but I was subscribed to a free iphone/ipad newsletter", then if the networks go to http://www.yourdomain.com they would see iframe.

    To counter this, on http://www.yourdomain.com
    - Display the iframed http://www.domainwithiframe.com only for search engine traffic AND referring domains that you trust.
    For example, if you only display it with google/yahoo/bing traffic and referring traffic from http://www.hotreferringdomain.com, then unless the networks do a search on google/yahoo/bing to get to your website, or if they go from hotreferringdomain.com, they can't see the iframe.

    Still there's no bullet proof solution, the only way is to make it as hard as you can for networks to find out your iframe.

    It's important to rotate offers from different networks.

    Also be ready to have multiple accounts at these networks.
     
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    Do you use this and personally, do you recommend it?
     
  8. businessminder

    businessminder BANNED BANNED

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    I have moved away from being affiliates and am running my own private network to manage offers and affiliates, so I haven't been doing this for about 6 months now.

    However, the way websites work doesn't change and hasn't changed.

    With that said, iframing is always against the ToS and is always a temporary solution. The leads generated from iframing are usually poor quality leads. So when you bring up the volume, you can always expect the payout to drop on you,

    Or, the networks will make up reasons to disable the offers on your account or even terminate your account (since you bring in poor quality leads), or increase the amount of shaving on your account to balance out. The networks have to make money and keep their advertisers happy. So if the advertisers aren't too happy about your leads, they will complain to the networks and the networks will always favor the advertisers.

    Also for further precaution I also activated cookies on http://www.yourdomain.com to only display http://www.domainwithiframe.com for search and trusted referring traffic once a day per IP.
     
  9. SpellZ

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    Hmm... So what can I do? I get around 4000 a month through my site... and I thought "Hey... since they are putting their email, they might as send their email to a CPA network for a $1.00 into my pocket"
     
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    If they are already inputting their emails, please check out my thread on integrating a CPA frame into an existing form. http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo-tools/276584-tutorial-integrate-cpa-frames-regular-form.html

    The idea is you can have your regular email input, plus your CPA input, meaning they put their email in 2 times total. You can tell them they have to input twice for verification purposes, like many sites do.