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Who here was first to do Black Hat SEO - and can prove it? (WayBack Machine)

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Fever, Aug 12, 2014.

  1. Fever

    Fever Registered Member

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    When did Black Hat SEO for Google begin? Does anyone know? Curious to know who was first in gaming the Google Algorithm.

    The furthest back proof I have of my own Black Hat SEO is April 25, 2002.
    I had a link farm of 20+ sites setup and I was getting #1,2,3,4,etc google results.

    Was anyone here before me?

    The first recorded algorithm change was September 2002. Even that first change didn't do much to stop our Black Hat ways.

    I'd like to know if anyone was before me. Here's my proof, i can't plost links so you gotta put this together to make a link:

    web archive org /web/20020425003914/ http :// www satellitetvcards net/


    View the source, and scroll to the bottom.
     
  2. aka sam

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    Lets assume you are the first Black Hatter, Now?
     
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    Do you know guy, in 2002 in my country we were using Dial Up to connect to the internet (Speed was 8 KBs)

    So don't talk to me about SEO in this age :D
     
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    I received my first copyright infringement lawsuit in 1999 for cloning a major check guarantee website, filling it full of bad reviews and outranking their real site on Altavista and other lesser known SEs. It was an expensive mistake and I won't be posing the legal proceedings that are available online. A few of my closest friends on BHW have seen them and know it's true. What is the prize for this contest? I hope it's worth more than the $140,000 settlement I paid back then, plus the $30,000 for Attorney fees. Although the education in trademark and copyright law was worth part of costs.
     
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  5. Fever

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    I am familiar with lawsuits lol. I can't disclose much more than that due to a permanent injunction. I guess you dont want to post the old URL's so we I can check them out? PM me? I wont post it public.


     
  6. Fever

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    LOL yes sam I guess. Check my link, its all there. :p
    Too bad we can't call up SERP's from back in the day.
     
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  8. Fever

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    No that was also me... 26000 Khz... Commodore 64, touch-term.
     
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    It's very difficult to find out who started gaming search engines before others followed suit. I guess many people started at the same time when they realised they couldn't rank as fast as they wanted.

    When an algorithm or system doesn't please you, your next aim would be how to manipulate it to give you the results you want. It just happens naturally.
     
  10. Fever

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    Not really difficult, it should all be in the way-back machine. I found mine in there .. I remember those days of domination.. That kind of domination translated into big sales and dollars back then. These days I'm hit and miss. They say Penguin killed all the old black hat techniques and has not refreshed now in 10 months.

    What's next? they say Social is the way to go..