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Who are these Tan Brothers and their $2500 The Ultimate Ecom course?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by ShiningWarrior, Jun 15, 2018.

  1. ShiningWarrior

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    Hey, suddenly in almost all the IM fb groups there is the buzz of these Tan Brothers and their $2500 ecom course - https://theultimateecomsystem.com/private

    I searched in google and I found them in crowdfundinsider - https://www.crowdfundinsider.com/2017/08/121119-steve-tan-kreyos-fame-pumping-e-commerce-success/

    Can anyone write in crowdfundinsider or they have to buy a space there?

    These are some of the income proof SS in the ultimate ecom system sales page -

    JacobKeltProof.jpg
    This can be true or not but those who use Shopify, there is a possibility that one can "manually" mark orders as processed on a particular amount for multiple days (without even making an actual sale) and then show the graph? A couple of noob frauds in some FB groups have been exposed to such gimmicks lol.

    I am not against any guru or something because most are s#it and their infos are rehashed and taken from multiple videos combined in youtube. What I am saying is if such screenshots are indeed true, then it must mean that the guru who made the course must be making waayyy more than his students?

    So, why on earth would he spend hours talking and making a video course for the people? I know people like an unlimited source of income but if the gurus are making way more than their students, then why would they make a course and price it $2500?
    I mean come on, the students are making $3,644,364.50 in just a mere 30 days so that means the teacher aka the guru would be making waaayy more than that logically...right? Then why would he make a video course and talk for hours for just a mere $2500?

    Again, I am not hating but there are too many gurus nowadays and the prices of such courses on rehashed infos from youtube are just LOL.

    What do you think?
     
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    It is beyond my understanding how you think that ANY of those gurus earns anything close what they are saying.

    Why even fuck around with order if you can just run a tool that manipulates json data in the background or simply edit the webpage...
     
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    You got me wrong brother. If I believed, I wouldnt have posted here ;)

    I am just saying if the students are making around $3,644,364.50 in just 30 days then the gurus are making waaayyyyyy more than that?
    Then why would they bloody waste their time in talking infront of the camera and do videos of their courses for a mere $2500?

    I think $2500 is more in value than their student's income of $3,644,364.50 in just 30 days?

    I am amazed that they are constantly holding webinars to brainwash people.
    You heard of Nick Peroni? This guy does NOT have any paid course. He has a FREE outdated course from 2016. But nowadays he seems to highly promote the Tan Brothers in his group. He constantly puts their videos in his group. He did a webinar with them or something. Maybe he gets a commission? Who knows...

    I'm telling you this IM is becoming shady due to all self-proclaimed gurus out there.

    Let's see what @Asif WILSON Khan , @safeSEOboost , @mickyfu has to say. :D

    Will tag others later. Eating and typing with one hand is weird for me haha. xD
     
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    I have never read a guru guide and never will. So I don't know any of those names. But I am into the eCommerce business.

    If you suck in the private field (aka doing it yourself) you teach people, to salvage the knowledge that you couldn't put to use yourself.

    I joined 2 Facebook groups in the past, saw the posts and immediately left.

    Also all those fancy screenshots tell you nothing about the ROI. Who gives a shit if you have a billion in sales if you lose 100k monthly. And that shows the absurd behavior this clientele is following. They don't even consider talking about ROI. Why? Because sales numbers just look better.
     
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    As a rule of thumb if someone offers how to show you to make money they are normally BS. There are exceptions, but few of them.
     
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    You seem to be pretty new to eCom there. Anyone getting into eCom or Dropshipping right now pretty much know who the Tan brothers are. Firstly, they own and operate the 2nd largest eCom group on Facebook with about 45K members in it (https://www.facebook.com/groups/EcomElites/). The largest one is Nick Peroni's Ecom Empires with about 60K members.

    Like I said, if you have been in any of the ecom circles, you will know the Tan brothers.They're pumping out $300K days on their stores doing millions each month. They host private masterminds all over the world and obviously know their shit. I think each spot on the mastermind is $10K alone. They're regularly invited to Shopify and Facebook HQs to talk about upcoming updates and what not because they're moving so much inventory through Facebook Ads alone. If you really doubt them or their results, join their group and watch the 3 videos that they've uploaded prior to talking about their course. The value in them alone is massive.

    Just gonna throw this link in here, you'll be able to watch it if you're in the group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/EcomElites/permalink/358984657952388/

    Evan Tan opens up about some of their winners and shows the numbers they did.

    Just because you can't contemplate any of it yet, it doesn't mean there aren't people making so much money.


    They've literally been doing millions each month for the past year and half that I've been following them. The $2500 course fee is the cost of learning the knowledge they've gathered over the years and I'm sure it's pretty fucking worth it. I bought a course for $300 from a "guru" and the stuff I learnt in there helped me make over six figures. So if you're too scared to throw in a little money and invest in KNOWLEDGE then just admit it. You need money to make more money.

    They don't NEED to sell courses to pay their bills. They've been throwing out freebies for a very long time and I'm so sure that everyone's been wanting some type of course or system from them so they can reach the same level in their businesses. Heck, I would've jumped into if had the spots not closed up so soon.

    Stop being skeptical, go out and make some fucking money.
     
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    I made over 12m last year using my app, I can tell you how in my $7 ebook.
     
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    You are assuming a lot about me. And 3 Million in SALES is not a lot of money.

    Heck even opening and operating a proper LLC in Hong Kong costs more then what some of those gurus are earning.
     
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    Are you forgetting the fact that those are results of just one person? All the results you see are of people who've been to their masterminds. Granted no one talks about their profit margins but you can assume that at least $280-300K out of the 3 Million is pure profit. The Tan brothers are pretty much experts and increasing AOV and ROAS.
     
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    This is a "big ticket" (>$1k) Internet Marketing launch, you will see a few like that every year; just watch the free content, you can already learn a lot from what they show for free.
     
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    I can tell that you can s#ck and bl#w at the same time. And about those product revealing videos, yes they did about 4-5 of them and that's called baiting Mr butt hurt.

    And yes doing millions each month BUT they wont try aggressively to do billions in month. So, instead they decide to make a $2500 course and in that they will show everything on how to do millions in a month? Who cares about the fuckin ROI right? Its all about the sales figure right dumbo?

    And you seem to be the most butt hurt on this one. There could be smoke from your rear but you wont smell that. Why? Coz you have your head digitally up some fake ass guru's arse! :)

    Hope I didnt hurt you softy :D
     
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    As I said earlier, I do not know those name.

    Can you explain to me why - you personal, not the whole world of gurus - prefer ROAS? I do understand that ROAS makes sense for marketing agencies that you outsource tasks to to compare their performance, but when it comes to the whole business model I do only care about the ROI. Taxes, Corporate Structure costs, Shipping and employees (and many many more things) all play into role for me for deciding if a specific brand can be continued or need to be cut of. Maybe ROAS make more sense to you because you are running paid ads on 100 different channels (which for sure would make sense for digital products).
     
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    And one more thing, if I would be making that much, I wouldn't bother showing people how it's done! Plain BLATANT AND SIMPLE!

    Even if people decide to give me 1 BILLION DOLLARS, I will NEVER show them the strategy to make 1 MILLION DOLLARS PER MONTH.

    Hope you understand what I am trying to say through that thick head of yours Mr. Butt Hurt.
     
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    I have had very much bad experiences with gurus. There is a guy who was among top 5 Adsense earners in India. I won a contest on one of his websites and when I contacted him about the prize, he made excuses with some new rules.

    There is another guy who claims to be a guru in CPA. A friend bought his course for $2000. He just send him some referrals in the course and it was waste of money. This guy however said in the TOS that there is no guarantee of earnings so he knows how to be legally safe.
     
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    Haha I just googled "AOV". Even that this needs to be a term for people shows just what a joke this part of the industry is. There is even YouTube videos teaching how to increase average order value. Are people really that dumb?

    I guess those idiots optimize their campaigns (after finding the core demographic) still via CPC and CPM :rolleyes:

    "Yeah look I have a CPM of 0.001$"

    "Wait why is my ROI so bad?"

    "Wait why do I need to pay so much tax now?"

    "Fuck I forgot to include the 20% tax in my calculation"

    "Fuck I am broke. But I had a good AOV and ROAS"
     
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    Seriously $2k for a CPA course? What did he do after that?
    Is he making good money?
    Haha and mate, you know that one can easily mark order processed manually in Shopify dashboard without even getting a sale? Many were caught of doing such gimmicks.
     
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    Is it me or they don't look that tan?
     
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    he was already earnign good money with Adsense. The CPA course was of no use to him. That guru still provides this course.
     
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    Lol man. Many people have indeed spent their hard earned money/savings by believing those SS. Those ppl have no idea about fake ass SS, ROI, and Sales figure.

    I feel bad for them.:weep:
    Name of that guru? We should warn others. Doesn't matter if he is here in the forum or not.
    I will make posts in FB and will alert my friends to share the thing.
     
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    Is it Tang Brothers, no?
     
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