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WhiteHAT SEO for affiliate site?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by 2DHades, Jun 8, 2011.

  1. 2DHades

    2DHades Power Member

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    Hello fellows,

    First of all I really really hope I picked up the exact place to put my thread on ... :)

    Recently I found out that a friend of mine is a really good SEO expert. However, recently I decided to push my site in google really hard. My word is short 8 characters with 27,000 exact searches (high competition)

    Yesterday I had a meeting with him and he explained me a little bit more about panda 2.0 (google project) that is build against all the affiliate sites and that google believe that affiliate sites are bad for the Internet and they don't like it.
    So far so good, we all know that G hates affiliates, but what my friend also said was shocking...

    He said that if I try to rank my site to page 1 it will be like I start a normal site (not affiliate) with punished domain, aka - super hard. Of course then I asked how the others rank on page 1 and he told me that they are most likely paying google to rank them which is scaring me as hell (where are we all going?)

    So basicly his words were that it's POSSIBLE for some SEO guru but it's really unlikely to achieve it without paying google (WOW!!!)

    I'm about to use only WhiteHAT techniques to achieve it (not me, my SEO guy)

    So basicly my question is if this is all true and should I screw my websites now and try to find another niche... ?

    Thanks for your time! :)
     
  2. dankerman666

    dankerman666 Regular Member

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    I have heard of people waiting until they get top spots to add their affiliate links and banners, personally I still to this day have no problem ranking my affiliate sites from beginning to end with affiliate links on page. You will always find some kind of struggle with a competitive niche and if your domain is still new then it might take ya a while to see results.

    Still you can drive traffic in many ways to keep a positive cashflow until your satisfied with your positions in serps.

    Others will chime in and you will be able to make a more informed decision after all the various input from reputable members here.
     
  3. 2DHades

    2DHades Power Member

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    The domain is 1,5y old
    However, I own some other domains which are 2years + old. (Domains of the same niche)

    I would be really thankfull for more opinions on that if I should invest money in SEO, probably it will take me 6+ months to rank there, at least those are the predictions of most SEO guys I've spoken to.

    Also what do you think about paying Google to rank you? Is this true? They would really harm their name if people know that Google is showing them sites that have paid them ...
     
  4. imth3one

    imth3one Newbie

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    I only work with affiliate sites. One of them has affiliate banners and direct ******** affiliate links but the site has 1k+ indexed pages. The site gained 20% traffic after panda

    Another affiliate site I launched in April has about 30 pages with site-wide cloaked affiliate links and has been steadily gaining SERPs (#8 now).

    I think your SEO Expert friend is a regular at DP and SEO gurus blogs
     
  5. 2DHades

    2DHades Power Member

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    What about after the latest Panda update?
     
  6. dragonrage01

    dragonrage01 Power Member

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    what do you mean pay google to be number 1?

    I've never heard of that. Dresses is like a very competitive term. JC Penney spent millions on their seo to compete on the keyword "dresses". Now you can't even find them. They have been hit by a penalty due to spamming. So I don't know where you get the idea that you can pay google money. I've never heard of such a thing.
     
  7. goinviral

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    buying position is not true, I am new around here but not new to IM. I have a site in a competitive niche in position 1. I never bought my way to that position. Having said that I did work on the site but some of ranking is down to a bit of luck. The main lucky thing that happened to me is that a few high pr authority sites decided to reference a few of my articles and they just linked straight to my front page. This helped a lot. So yes you can be great at SEO and you can have a great backlinking strategy but sometimes you just have to be lucky.
     
  8. Victoria from DNP

    Victoria from DNP Junior Member

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    Yes, Google hates affiliates but you can rank good anyway. No matter how hard they try to change the algorithm to screw affiliates, someone will always find a way around it. :)
     
  9. llewopsnimajneb

    llewopsnimajneb Regular Member

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    Really? Google hates affiliates? are you sure about that?

    I think that Google wont rank poor, badly produced content that has little or no real world use to the average user. I think that it also wont rank sites based on the number of incoming links, that it finds in single forum profiles, blog comments and random places online.

    What Google will rank is Good content, useable content, reference-able content, shared content and well written, interesting, pretty content.

    Panda was about devaluing the content farms and hence the links that were coming from those farms.

    Google's goal is to be able to produce information to people that is as close to what they are looking for as possible. It's called relevance.

    If your site has ads Google doesn't care. You know how I know, go to a site like.... um...Mashable... count the number of ads on the home page, and think about how they rank for stuff... then tell me Google hates advertising and affiliates.

    Traffic, Bounce rate, Relevance, Quality and Share-ability of content and site, that is how you rank.
     
  10. helen011

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    dragonrage01 said a very true story. Recently google has such things
     
  11. 2DHades

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    So basicly if you do it SMART sooner than alter you will rank pretty good (my KW is a really competitive one). But honnestly I have read a lot about G hating affiliates, however, I believe it will be worth it to launch a SEO campaign, obviously not with the guy who de-motivated me about this hehe :)

    Any other opitnions, guides, etc. will be HIGHLY appreciated! :)

    Cheers