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Which one of you sold fake Youtube views to Justin Bieber?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by GiorgioB, Mar 19, 2013.

  1. GiorgioB

    GiorgioB Supreme Member

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    This made me laugh

    Musicians accused of 'buying virtual fans' on YouTube



    Some music artists are buying social networking statistics to get into the charts, a Newsbeat investigation has found.

    The statistics, which can be bought, include YouTube views, Twitter followers and Facebook likes.

    Newsbeat has found that you can buy 10,000 YouTube views for as little as £30.

    There is also a market for buying comments to attribute to the views to help authenticate them.

    A data monitoring company based in America says that it has a list of artists who they believe are buying statistics to increase their popularity with record labels and radio bosses.


    Jordan Allen explains what he things of buying hits for online videos
    Next Big Sound says it plans to release the information on which artists are doing it later this year in a report.

    Justin Bieber was discovered after clocking up millions of views with his YouTube videos and Conor Maynard was discovered by singer Ne-Yo because of the performances he had posted on the video-sharing website.

    Nineteen-year-old Jordan Allen is an unsigned singer/songwriter who lives in Leeds. Newsbeat asked him his opinion on artists buying their social networking statistics in the video above.


    Stars explain what they think about artists buying virtual fans
    On a recent tour in the UK, singer Ne-Yo signed a British singer/songwriter, Sonna Rele, to his Universal Motown Records label after discovering her on YouTube.

    Ne-Yo says being active on social networking platforms is important, but having high numbers isn't an issue for him when he's talent searching.

    Alex White is the CEO and co-founder of Next Big Sound, which gathers information on daily physical music and online consumption around the world.

    He wouldn't name which artists he suspected had been purchasing its data, but said sometimes it was obvious to see that they had.


    Meet the man who monitors artists suspected of buying virtual fans
    Martin V is based in Ottawa in Canada and runs a company where people can buy tens of thousands of YouTube views and comments for less than £100.

    Twitter says using a company or a computer programme to increase your online activity on Twitter is against its rules.

    In a statement it told Newsbeat: "Twitter reserves the right to immediately terminate your account without further notice [if] you violate these rules."


    Man says he's helped artists buy hits on online music videos
    Facebook told Newsbeat that gaining "likes" from people who aren't interested in that page is "no good to anyone".

    They advised: "If you run a Facebook page and someone offers you a boost in your fan count in return for money; walk away.

    "Not least because it is against our rules and there is a good chance those Likes will be deleted by our automatic systems."

    YouTube agreed that purchasing views or any other channel data was against its rules and said if it found out it had been done they could go as far as terminating your account.
     
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  2. daddymax

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    it wasn't me
    do you think he got an adsense acc to monetize his vids ?
     
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    he must be on bhw or wf
    make this thread sticky and try to find that guy and never buy any thing from him
     
  4. Nuklearedm

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    I lol'd
     
  5. AnotherOne

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    Finally someone want to ban/block that justin bieber 'girl' and her fake followers.
     
  6. Valefor

    Valefor BANNED BANNED

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    it was like gamnam style :)
     
  7. wowhaxor

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    Justin beaver might have one of the most viewed videos but it also is the most thumbs downed video by a wide margin!
     
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    ShadeDream Elite Member

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    With 3.5billion video views and the money he makes, he is laughing his ass of at what you think. I would too.

    Speaking of which, another Justin Bieber is being born:

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  9. GiorgioB

    GiorgioB Supreme Member

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    Oh no doubt, I'm not laughing at Justin Biever, its just the article made me laugh.. The main point is that even these guys do black hat, I'd love to know who is doing that for them and how much money they are netting but definitely more than me at the moment.


    BTW this article is from BBC, I didn't quote add the link in the OP, its from here:

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    GiorgioB, you made h(er)im more famous now (of course I didn't say 'more popular') on the internet than (s)he deserved -- because of this thread.
     
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  11. GiorgioB

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    haha, damnit.. maybe mods can change the name to Just-a Wiener.. I do not want to be credited with anything related to his success or reputation, be it good or bad..
     
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    I actually read the article this time and I think it's stupid, I don't like it. Some of these people should get a life and do something better than to track who buys views and who doesn't. When that guy in the 3rd video down mentioned the word "illegal" I wanted to LOL.
     
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    What I really dont get is why people get bothered by this. Or like when people buy Twitter followers, I mean, if you want and you have the money, you can buy it, it is just marketing.
     
  14. GiorgioB

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    Its because you (and most of us) have become acustomed to this as a method of marketing. But most regular people would be surprised that you can artificially inflate your popularity.. and as mentioned in the article, we're talking about artists that have made billions of dollars.

    It's a bit as if one day we discovered that the positive reviews in the most popular BSTs here are fake, and the OPs just bought them for $50, so that their service looks awesome and popular.. but actually its just marketing.
     
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    I think it's got something to do with "jealousy" and "greed". Maybe not the best way to put it but people tend to not like things they don't understand or can't get easy access to.

    Whatever the reason, haters gonna hate. Though GiorgioB has a point with that BST example, not exactly but it does make a point.
     
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    Didn't you know? Only the most ruthless and hardened internet criminals sell followers and views.. It's super illegal!

    lol
     
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    Well this would explain Justin Biebers popularity on youtube, I Knew there was a reason for him having over 10 views of his videos lol
     
  18. Ste Fishkin

    Ste Fishkin "I'm watching you.." - Apricot Jr. VIP Premium Member UnGagged Attendee

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    £30 for 10k... bit of a rip off there.
     
  19. mrorzio

    mrorzio Regular Member

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    They should have put that in his movie...

    Meets Usher - Sings on Street Corners - Found BHW forum and Bought 2 million views and people started calling him!

    LOL
     
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    Even celebs can't resist from internet marketing :(

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