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Which is Best Option PPL Or Revshare ?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO Tools' started by Deutsch69, Mar 16, 2017.

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which is Best PPL or Revshare ?

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  1. Deutsch69

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    Please Tell me which is best Option to Go with

    PPL Or Revshare ???

    Honestly i always go for PPL as i can easily make 4digits amount with 1 month.
    unLike revshare which is pain in the ass to make 100euro a month
     
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    Any experienced guy here to leave thier comments and opinons
     
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    PPL depends mainley on your marketing skills and RevShare is a combination of both your marketing skills and the vendor's abillity to sell it's product and upsell his clients, there is no definitive answer.

    Best way to know for sure is to split test these two offers and see which of them generates you more profits.
     
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    That is strange, because if a network pays and keeps paying you for PPL, it means that they're making money out of your leads, otherwise you wouldn't get paid. No-one pays and keep paying you 4 digits per month, if your leads only generate 100 EUR per month, at least not for long.

    How long have you been trying to promote revshare? It can take a few months to outperform PPL, but in the end it will worth it. If you're expecting results from revshare in the first month, that won't happen. So you either need to be a bit more patient - although i don't know how long are you trying - or try revshare with other networks/offers.

    I guess it can depend on the type of the programs you promote. With cams revshare is better for sure, where you get a certain percentage of member spendings and not from rebills or rebills too, but the waste majority of your money is coming from credit/token purchases. People are not forced to spend, if they don't spend, you won't get money obviously, but they will start spending eventually. With dating and rebills i guess you never know, people can get fed up with rebills easily (i would too) and simply cancel their membership. Most dating sites are scams with a high percentage of fake accounts and when your members wisen up, they cancel their membership. Whereas with live cams, they know exactly what they're buying and always come back for more. So there's that. But this is not a rule either, because when i promoted AdultFriendFinder, even in that case revshare/PPS outperformed PPL, even though it's an open secret that most of their girl profiles are fake.

    All i know that whenever i started with PPL, i always regretted it and i should have gone for revshare from the very first moment. I see PPL as a waste of traffic for the publisher, unless you need money fast.
     
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    is This Strange Seriously ??? clarifiy more in depth please as i haven t got it well,

    Corncerning Your questions
    1- How long have you been trying to promote revshare?
    ( i split traffic sometimes ) in total it would be 2 month during 3Years with this Network

    2- on PPL, i made 4/or 5K depend easily
     
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    Thx a million for your comment, it s very interesting but PPL is quickest way to make money at least for me While Revshare has been Disaster !!!
    regarding Marketing skills, i rely on social media 90%
     
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    if you are doing cams I would just do payperlead because all those companies steal your whales from you.
     
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    that is what i am Doing since years but what if you are sending High roller customers which pay alot money in cams?
     
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    Yes, i said it's strange that you make more money with PPL than with revshare, because if you keep sending traffic to PPL and if you keep getting paid, it means your leads make money for the network, more than what they pay you, otherwise they wouldn't pay you, not in the long run. They convert your PPL to revshare or simply ban you from the network or specific offer, if your leads don't convert. I don't really know any network which would be that good of a samaritan to pay you for shit leads and take a loss. I can't really be clearer than this, but you get this concept, no?

    Maybe it's a really dishonest network you're dealing with and they're "forcing" you to send your traffic to PPL by shaving your revshare to death and having low earnings compared to PPL, so they can keep the big profit for themselves, while throwing you a bone. But this is conspiracy theory territory. lol It can be that you simply didn't give it enough time.

    That's not my experience at all. PPL is what they shave to death most of the time, you'll be credited for every 2nd lead roughly. At least this is the case on Chaturbate. With their PPL model i generated exactly half of the free signups what i generate with revshare sending the exact same type of traffic. It makes a perfect sense to shave on PPL, because for a while they need to pay you from their own pockets until your leads start to convert. They can shave revshare registrations or even spendings too of course, but i still make more money on revshare.

    PPL is really just for fast money, which is good for the advertiser, but not really for the publisher, in case if said pub has quality traffic.

    That's why it's good to promote cams, because you or the affiliate site don't have to do any selling, it sells itself and at the end of the day everyone's happy. Everyone gets what they want in opposite of dating sites, where customers feel themselves fucked over, because of the insane amount of fake profiles and sneaky rebills. In that case i can see PPL outperforming revshare, but not on cam sites.

    Split testing is good of course, but split testing PPL and revshare is a longer process, it can take months to get a definite answer and that answer will only be true for the specific offer/site you promote and not for the different earning models. But if you promote live cams, the way to go is revshare, this is a sure thing. This seems to be the general consensus here and on other marketing forums too.

    Here's a Chaturbate screenshot from a different forum:

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    As you can see, revshare outperformed PPL by a mile.
    While looking at the stats of revshare at the bottom, we can't decide the tier of the registrations, they pay $1 for tier 1 regs and a lot less for tier 2 or tier 3. The guy generated 2.4k free registrations on revshare. How much would have that been on PPL? What i said above, they shave around half of the regs on PPL, so he would have been credited with 1.2k free regs, but let's be generous and assume that there's no shaving and that all of that would have been tier 1, which worth $1/lead. So he would have made a whopping $2.7k on PPL (including $300 for the 6 referred models) opposed to his $39k revshare earnings. Total money spent: $192k, the models get roughly half of that, so $96k. $96k is left, they paid the guy $39k (20% of the $192k + $300 for the referred models), $57k profit is left for the network. On PPL the models still get half, so $96k, the network would have made $93k profit by paying only $2.7k to the guy.
    (The guy's unique hits:free reg ratio is pretty shitty though.)
    Which is the better deal for the network? Of course PPL. Which is the better deal for the guy? Of course revshare.
    You can look at any earning proof from Chaturbate, the situation will almost always be the same, if you give it time and don't try to compare a week or a month old stats.
    While i don't believe most proofs posted on the net, i do believe in my own example, which correlates 100% with the screenshot above.

    Also, the big advantage of revshare is that if you stop sending traffic, you'll still make money, which is a true autopilot income. If you see a decline in revenue, you can always start sending traffic again.
     
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