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Where to point you xrumer blast etc. spam links to?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Ranko Jones, Mar 29, 2011.

  1. Ranko Jones

    Ranko Jones BANNED BANNED

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    I have been advised by a whitehatter that you should NEVER build backlinks to any site except your own- i.e. to EZA cos it would mean your articles in EZA would be ranking ahead of you in the serps thus you are outcompeting yourself.

    Now at the same time I know it's said here that we shouldn't link directly to our main money site with BH techniques such as xrumer blasts due to sandboxing risk. Interestingly though I see alot of people offering several k blasts on warriorforum though not calling them blasts. The unsuspecting whitehatters which use them would be having those blasts directed to their main money sites and I haven't seen any complaints on there about it? Maybe it's cos the comments are from confederates but I'd expect to see others chime in and say you will get sandboxed etc.

    So where does the truth lie? Doesn't doing blasts on sites other than your own just waste your blasts whereas doing them on your own risks sandboxing?

    Can someone clear this up for me?
     
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    Well to make it short, your whitehatter friend is basically an idiot :)
     
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    ^ +1

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_network

    Social network theory = Most pure and legitimate map for link building. This is essentially what [good] link wheels attempt to replicate. Nobody in the world has thousands of friends who don't have any other friends but yourself. It's not natural looking. The same holds true for backlinking.
     
  4. Ranko Jones

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    So care to explain why they are idiots (I'm not saying they are or aren't) since I wanna know why it would be better to do things this way.

    It's funny cos when I mentioned blackhat techniques to them they said the same thing- that BHers are idiots for using these techniques and they got in a hissy fit about it saying they will not help me if I continue talking this 'nonsense' to them as they 'don't have time' for it. I thought it was a pretty emotional response. :)

    Their argument from the little I gathered between getting upset at me is that spamming forum profile backlinks are 'worthless'. When I asked 'not even worth a little bit?' they repeat WORTHLESS though showed no signs of having tested the hypothesis themselves but stated some other people they know who told them that and they believed it 'on good authority'.

    Their reasoning I think was that a low PR context relevant backlink or two would beat out thousands of non context relevants. What do you guys say on this?

    Also maybe the blast method works short term for a boost but does it continue after you get your initial bump? I've heard another argument against is that this stuff only works for a few weeks but I don't see why that would be the case unless you got banned- which of course a good BHer would take precautions against in the 1st place.

    Not writing this just for argument's sake; I'm writing it cos I am interested in doing BH techs myself and so wanna understand it better.

    Oh yea and care to state why specifically it is bad advice to not point links to anything but your own? their initial reasoning seemed valid since I tested this myself- when you submit to Ezine 1st for instance before your own site then it will get bumped ahead of yours. So doesn't that also stand true if you are pointing more links to similar articles on your targeted keywords? i.e won't they come ahead of your own article in serps or does the link juice from those links 'carry over' to your money site? I am still guessing here so if someone could explain it better that would be appreciated.

    Shadow aren't you there talking about link wheels vs. pyramid links? I thought the problem was that google caught on with interlinking and penalized link wheeling and thus ppl promote pyramid linking instead now? Rereading I see the comment you made (about thousands with non but yourself) is a little diff to pyramid method right?
     
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