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When we plan to buy Deleted/Expired domains Help!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by FIREBOSS, Jan 1, 2016.

  1. FIREBOSS

    FIREBOSS Power Member

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    As the title says When we plan to buy Deleted/Expired domains what we have to look in to it?
    Something i want to start adsense or amazon so how can chose right domain ?
    HAPPY NEW YEAR GUYS!
     
  2. Abqerino

    Abqerino Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Hey,
    Happy new year,
    my method:
    go to expireddomains Dot net
    & register its free
    select delete .com or .net or .org
    & re fine filters as & select
    Page Rank:
    No Fake PRs
    No Unsure PRs
    No Page Rank -1
    Only List 12 Hours or 24 Hours or 7 Days
    Domains Pre Page 200
    & Select Adwords & SEO
    on MOZ.com
    Type on
    DA 10
    PA 10
    & Apply Filter
    That's my way
    Sory for my bad English :(
     
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  3. FIREBOSS

    FIREBOSS Power Member

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    Thanks man.I'm trying your way now
    When u are choosing which options we should take look?
    BL/PR/SG? or any other things?
     
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    Abqerino Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Try & tell me about result,
    Happy new Year,
     
  5. lightningblitz

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    I noticed a couple of your posts about this so I figure I will explain some things about getting expired domains:

    1. PR is not updated but still can be used as a filter. The problem is EVERY new SEO is using it to scrape domains. You will not find great sites but a bunch that have been picked through by using PR.

    2. PA and DA can be inflated by spam and are not updated often enough. You are getting a screen shot of at least several months ago for most websites. I have some PBN domains with PA or DA 9 (I get these a lot because most SEOs skip over them) but have an excellent back link profile and high TF.

    3. Most domains you buy from a vendor sell you on metrics. Although TF seems to be honest, it still is not accurate. I can pump up TF with some blog comments if I had to. Although TF does seem to be the most accurate metric, some glaring holes are that TF values links improperly. You can find a domain with TF 20 + but if you look at the back link profile you will find one of two things commonly:

    A. Spammed with high TF Blog Comments
    B. High OBL pages which have TF

    What does this mean? For the high OBL pages (Which blog comments are pretty much the same thing) you are sharing the link juice with a LOT of other sites. So although your metrics look great on paper, you do not pass the link juice.

    4. Contextual matters.

    This is not a secret. Some domain sellers on BHW have it right and sell domains with links from contextual high authority pages. These domains tend to do better because contextual links pass the most power. Even if the contextual link is not niche relevant it is stronger than a bunch of blog comments pumping metrics.

    5. Clean is the most important.

    Spam free is what you want 100 % of the time. It is very rare that I find a decent domain that has not had:

    Chinese Spam
    Japanese Spam
    Russian Spam
    One Page Affiliate Sites
    Etc.

    Most domains you buy look great UNTIL you see what happened in the past. You may get lucky and get a non penalized domain, but most likely you will not. Although this spam may not hurt you right now, it can in the future if you add your own spam to your domain.

    6. You can reverse a penalty.

    If you buy a domain with a penalty, you can get it reversed. If you check the back link profile, do everything right and build up a good site only to find it is penalized, you can get it reversed by linking the site to WMT. It is actually easier than you think. The only problem is if you have a site which has a lot of spam in the history, on link sources you can't get removed. So be careful. If you get a site which had a one pager for a month but was taken down but looks clean, you can get the thin content penalty removed.

    On the other hand, some domains may be more work than they are worth to fix. Keep this in mind when checking domains.

    7. The back link profile is king.

    This is the exact thing you are looking for:

    1. Links from low OBL pages
    2. Multiple contextual links
    3. Little Spam
    4. A lot of naked or branded anchor texts
    5. No over optimization of any anchor
    6. Links on hard to get sources (Authority sites, news sites you cant get a link by doing a Press Release)
    7. Etc.

    You want good back links. Metrics are great. But they are filters. What really matters are the back links.

    My grandpa always told me "Measure twice, cut once." Check the metrics twice and click buy once. That way you get a good domain .
     
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  6. TheSEOWizard

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    As a popular expired domains seller, I would say you need a few checks. How you find it is your concern and somebody else might help you with that. But what you need to check is what I can inform.

    1. Check the TF and CF. I would ideally go for a domain with at least URL TF (or root or www TF CF) of 15+.

    2. The TF CF ratio must not be more than 1:2. You will rarely find blog comment spam etc. if you follow this ratio.

    3. Check domain manually for anchor texts. There should not be any spammy anchor texts including historical anchor texts.

    4. Check screenshots.com for any signs of PBN or Chinese spammy site in the past

    5. Check archive.org (at least 2-3 snapshots every year) for any signs of Chinese spam or PBN or redirections

    6. Check Ahrefs.com for quality of backlinks. Ahrefs provides far better idea on quality of backlinks compared to Majestic as it is shown inside texts and you can see if they are contextual. Ahrefs live links is also fresher at times compared to Majestic. You always get the best idea of backlinks as a whole from Ahrefs. Check the anchor texts here too for any signs of spam.

    7. Check PR. If it is also there, it is even better at least from the perspective of selling off to others. PR is still respected in some circles.

    8. Check PA and DA. I personally also combine PA DA 15+ or at least PA DA 12+ in addition to the others.


    The rule is to not waste time on a domain if it does not pass any of the test till step no. 6. If you find spam or problem at any stage, just leave it and check stats of the next domain.
     
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    Never knew this. thanks a lot buddy :)
     
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    I don't understand why don't people start digging up this forum for the related threads than posting a question which have been answered n number of times.