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when paypal asks for SSN on stealth paypal what do you do? (no identity fraud here)

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  1. natit

    natit Newbie

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    NO IDENTITY FRAUD HERE

    when paypal asks for SSN on stealth paypal what do you do?
     
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    archon10 BANNED BANNED

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    I tell them to eat a dick.
     
  3. kaylanewett

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    Another nonsense question. You have 2 options, either put a fake one, or yours. You say you're not going to put a fake one, so that leaves you with the other option. Put your own, there's no other way around it.
     
  4. natit

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    thing is im a canadian citizen. not american. i have a stealth american paypal. what happens when i put the fake one in? is that identity fraud?
     
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    I get what you mean now. I'm also a Canadian citizen (born and raised in Toronto) Moved to NYC when I was 19. Instead of putting an SSN, have you tried putting in your SIN? If that doesn't work, you may have to try to register an LLC.
     
  6. PandaDomo

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    Registering a LLC can cost hundreds if not thousands of dollars though depending on the area you're from I believe. Don't quote me on this though, I'm not 100% sure.

    You might be better off creating a new account altogether.
     
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    artizhay BANNED BANNED

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    Um, registering an LLC would cost around a MAX of $300. But as little as $40.

    Do please do your research before throwing out arbitrary numbers that you know are likely wrong.
     
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    Like I said, I'm not 100% sure.

    Try reading what I wrote a little more clearly.

    This is what I read real quick for the information: http://www.legalzoom.com/llc-faq/llc-operating-costs.html

    Registering an LLC price varies, but the costs to maintain one can increase the price depending on the area. I'm speaking of a cumulative cost, not just the registration since I'm assuming the OP would need to maintain the LLC license in order to continuously be able to use his PayPal account.
     
  9. natit

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    so what do you guys suggest i do? the account only has 300$ on it.
     
  10. artizhay

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    Saying you're not 100% percent sure doesn't give you a right to say something. "I think the sky is green, but I'm not 100% sure." "I think gravity is a myth, but I'm not 100% sure." These things contribute absolutely nothing founded on solid information, nor are they validated by acknowledging your ignorance.

    Cumulatively, to maintain an LLC, all he would need to do is pay his sales tax and franchise tax. And depending on how and where he transacts business, these may be next to $0. As well as file public information reports, and that's really all that is necessary for a bare-bones LLC.

    Of course there are states that cost a lot as noted in the document you linked (which, of course, makes it seem as though managing an LLC on your own is very expensive and time-consuming, given that one of LegalZoom's main services is business registration and they need their copy to sell it efficiently), but if he only needs to quickly form an LLC for PayPal verification purposes, do tell me how it is in any way prudent to even consider registering somewhere like NY when he could register in one of the $40 states.
     
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  11. PandaDomo

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    I specifically mention that I'm not 100% sure because I'm not an expert at this, I can't exactly confirm what I read with absolute conviction since I've never done it myself.

    At the very least, I offered him a little help, regardless of how miniscule the OP may find it.

    It's apparent that you're more knowledgeable regarding this subject than I am, but next time, try offering a deeper insight and correcting somebody in a friendlier manner. There's no need for hostility on a public forum.

    I'm not going to bother to go off onto a tangent and insult your intelligence like you did mine, but consider being a little friendlier next time.

    Nobody likes an asshole.
     
  12. natit

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    i dont think im gonna get an LLC it seems to complicated. what would be the best route to take atm ? thanks
     
  13. natit

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    anyone know what to do, not going to the LLC route.?
     
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    find one floating around the net, or ask some of those people who can verify your account.
     
  15. zebrahat

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    The real problem is the horse is already out of the barn, if the limitation has already happened, no SSN (true or faux) was submitted when the account was created, and Paypal is demanding one now. By that point, Paypal verifies any number supplied against a national database that ensures the number was actually issued by SSA, is actually assigned to the name, matches the DOB and address info, is from a living person, etc. Meaning, the attempt to restore the account to full service will fail, and the OP will have to wait 180 days to withdraw the funds.
     
  16. natit

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    thing is i used fake name generator to do it.
     
  17. zebrahat

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    If you use fake name generator info to create an account, and add the faux SSN to it at that point, Paypal is much less likely to ask for it later. But when it gets to this point, where PP specifies it wants a real SSN/TIN and you can't supply one, it means you can't get your account restored. If you don't JV with someone to use their assigned SSN (or yours), and you don't want to make a LLC, I'm just saying you'll have to accept a frozen account, and wait 6 months to withdraw.
     
  18. natit

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    thanks for your reply zebrahat. my account is temp limited and it doesnt say anywhere that i can withdraw after 6 months?