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when keyword + hyphen are all taken what do you turn to?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by goatm1lk, Jan 3, 2010.

  1. goatm1lk

    goatm1lk Newbie

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    Hi, I'm wondering what you guys think is the next best name for a domain name when ever option of having it exact is gone (including hyphons). I've seen some people use numbers or letters or an entire new word. What do you guys think is the best way. For example, would one extra letter be better than a new word etc..? THANKS!
     
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    J0kerz Supreme Member

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    As far as yout keyword is in your domain name, it doesnt matter.
     
  3. mollah

    mollah Power Member

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    maybe a number.

    Your niche is Blue Shoes but all the domains with those words are taken. So, try like blueshoes1.com or something.

    Careful tho, domains with numbers in them can look spammy. Have you seen the commercials on TV for like "free credit report 45" or "11 home business" or whatever where obvious spammy CPA promotions are being run on domains like that?

    I usually associate numbers with spam, UNLESS it's somehow related.
     
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    DrJekyll Senior Member Premium Member

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    go for a 3 word domain,

    cheapestblueshoes
    bestblueshoes
    my
    your
    great


    I never get any hyphen domains anymore.
     
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    If all possible domains are taken, turn to an Adjective+Keyword. For example, use "cheapbacklinks.com" when, "backlinks.com" is taken.
     
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    gottaloveit Registered Member

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    A 3-4 words adjective plus keyword phrase and who knows you may rank for long tailed keyword
     
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    mariopits Registered Member

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    According to SEO Easy Way V2, G has has something called "stop words"; it ignores words such as "the", "with", "for", "and", "by", etc. So you if you were looking for a good variant of the word "blue widgets" but they were all taken (hyphen included), you could use bluebywidgets.com and G would read and treat it as bluewidgets.com

    Hope that helps.
     
  8. Jekashi

    Jekashi Regular Member

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    This is right on. Any word you can enter in a query into Google, such as "Buy for people" and only see two of the three words you've entered in any single result means that Google will essentially "void" that word because it is considered common.

    Things like free, cheap, best, etc. however will normally be useable in a query. So keep this in mind when choosing between void-words and adjectives. :p
     
  9. Crooker

    Crooker Newbie

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    That doesn't work.
    Stop words are for content only.
    Domains are not affected by this.

    Google and friends use stop words to save disk space.
    But they still need know where it was from.
    So long story short stop words don't work.

    In marketing the best company names are actual names.
    Say your a carpenter then a good company name would be JohnsCarpentry.
    They are actually more trust worthy from a peoples point of few and thats what is all about.
    To supply people with a safe and comforting environment to get what they need.

    So stuff like BillsBeds.com , ClydesCowboyboots.com , MarketingJim.com what you could look at.
    The psychology of this is that a person remembers names better then products.
    This is just Basic Marketing so some of you guys are surprising me a little.
    You should go read some books on that.

    But anyways a handy SEO byproduct of this is that your keyword is in the domain.
    Another handy byproduct of this is that when you do comment spam you actually have a name to fill into that name field now.
     
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    dejanlesi Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Take a different tld.. .net, .org, .us these are all great extensions.. If you have the chance always get a domain with exact keywords and nothing else. That way, the domain itself is worth something and you have an advantage in the search engines..

    If you have content that the visitor is looking for then it does not matter which extension your domain has, they will remember or bookmark it ;)
     
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    Yup, .net and .org are great if you can not find good .com domains. Google also rank them well.
     
  12. fuzon

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    Depends on your niche, service, market, product. If your selling try getting buy into the url ie buy *yourproduct* .com if your buying try sell *yourproduct*.com always think from your customers perspective, what exactly are they searching for? Once you know use the most popular keyword if thats taken use the second or combine both in your URL.

    Use google trends to research what exact terms people are using to find your niche/prodcut. Include one of those keywords in a subdomain! Subdomains work well for me and best of all are free to host and a great way to further get your keyword into your all important domain name.

    As for domain extension .me is huge at the moment and facebook have recently shortened their URL to fb.me
     
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    I would probably stick an adjective in the phrase, it depends on the niche.

    I wouldnt worry too much about it though, I wouldnt consider it to be one of the more important factors for ranking high within the search engines.
     
  14. mollah

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    That read (and was formatted) like poetry :D
     
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  15. mollah

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    depending on your target market and niche you could also put something easy to remember like "Fucking" in your URL.

    I mean honestly, if I was in the market for Blue Shoes and I saw a website www.fuckingblueshoes.com, i would remember it.