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Whats up with "retro" cars in the usa?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Roparadise, Nov 15, 2012.

  1. Roparadise

    Roparadise BANNED BANNED

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    Whats up with the retro muscle car fad going on the usa right now especially in the movies? I really don't get why cars with 40+ year old tech are so popular compared to modern american sports cars.

    I can get a fully loaded 2013 camaro for $61,000 that goes 0-60 mph in 3.9 seconds,but a 1969 which is listed as one of the top muscle cars goes 0-60 in 5.2 seconds and would cost me at least $75,000 for one in like new condition without any good features in the inside such as good speakers and a navigation system.
     
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    they are no longer manufactured
    they are relatively rare (at least in EU)
    they had style
    ...

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    I've noticed that too. It's weird how in movies it's like young people digging 60s-80s muscle cars. Probably trying to make the baby boomers feel youthful again.

    Maybe it's just more affordable now, kind of how I see a lot more of my friends buying a bmw, lexus, or audi.

    In a recession/depression, suddenly luxury becomes more affordable if your needs are taken care of.
     
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    the only measure of a car is it's 0-60 time?

    pre 1973 cars were Badass. Cuda, Challenger, camaro, monte, vette, stang, and TONS more
    i don't know where YOU price shop but there are sweet camaros all over craigslist for about 20k
    http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/cto/3387833580.html
     
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    This isn't a "fad." These cars have been popular, and always will be, since the year they were made. The muscle car era is one of the most iconic eras of Americas car history. That 1969 Camero set the precedence for the 2013 Camero you referenced. 0-60 isn't everything.
     
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  6. erniedawg

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    1."Retro"? They're called Classic Cars.
    2. They were manufactured to last. Drive a new car into a pole(slowly) and watch it mash up like a tin can.
    3. They were the 1st cars used in street races all over the U.S.
    4. A lot of older people all over the U.S. still own them and have them in mint conidtion sitting in their garages.
    5. Made in the U.S.A.
     
  7. martinmerl

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    id have a bmw m3 dct 4litre over a muscle car anyday......[​IMG]
     
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    "5. Made in the U.S.A." what does that mean all the best cars are from europe.
     
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    It is all a matter of preference for me many classic cars would get my choice before BMW M3 DCT 4litre!

    Remember anybody with money can buy a BMW whereas if there are only a 100 of a classic car model on the road, and you buy one you have 1 in a 100 and all the kudos et al... that goes with that exclusivity!
     
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    what about my other comment steelballs..........
     
  11. johnjubur

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    Used to own '69 dodge charger !
     
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    Comparing muscle cars from the '60s and '70s to sports cars today is an apples-to-oranges discussion.

    It's like comparing a 1959 Bordeaux wine to a 2009 bottle of Cristal. One is rare, has had considerable care taken for it to stay in good condition, and can be enjoyed by someone with a palate for high-end wine. The other may have also been crafted well, but it's also common, not yet needing much preservation, and can be enjoyed by the masses.

    As for this discussion, I never really got into muscle cars, but I can certainly understand those who would.
     
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  14. glew

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    It's a two part answer -
    1.) Most importantly SOME of them are RARE!

    - 1967 - 86 Yenko Camaro - produced: 201
    -1969 Yenko Chevelle - produced: 99
    (only 35 total cars survive today)

    - 1969 - 1970 Ford Boss 429 Mustang - produced: 859
    (unknown how many survive)

    - 1969 -1970 Plymouth Superbirds & Roadrunners - produced: less than 2,783
    (only 1200 -1300 survive today)

    All these cars were limited production runs and some have been sold lately for between $300,000 and $3,000,000! (Fully Restored)

    2.) The problem is since those limited production cars have received a lot of attention some owners think that 1966 mustang rust bucket sitting in their front yard now commands a premium price also......BUT THEY DON'T! To an un-informed buying public they perceive that all the muscle cars are just as rare. And some people pay the inflated prices. People buy into the hype. Perception is Reality!
     
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  15. Roparadise

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    I should have been more clear, I can understand collecting them,but not the bs that they can out run modern euro and Japanese sports and are better then the new us sports cars for racing.
     
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    As someone above said, you either get it or you don't.
    To compare a 2012 Camaro with a 60's or early 70's Cuda, Challenger, Roadrunner, Camaro etc merely based on 0-60 misses about 99% of what it's all about.
    For one, these cars are not "retro" and they are hardly a fad. Having grown up in the 60's I can assure you that people have been clamoring for these cars for decades.
    I've yet to hear anyone getting a boner for a 1996 Trans Am. Which I actually owned and loved. But to compare that car which was basically a Corvette engine surrounded
    by gobs of plastic crap that rattled and fell apart to something from the golden age of automobiles in the US would be laughable.

    Another factor is this: Unless you have a fucking degree in automobile engineering, you couldn't do shit to doany real work on a modern car. But to open up the hood on
    something from that era and actually be able to see the fucking GROUND under your engine and then crawl underneath and do real work...man. Heaven.

    I guess you either get it or you don't. No offense intended.
    And while we're on it, I'll also take most cars that were built in the 40's through the early 70's before smog laws fucked everything up, over anything since.
     
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  17. erniedawg

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    It goes together with "Manufactured to Last", "Quality", and "Worldwide Brand". Plus, you do realize cars were invented in the United States by Henry Ford in 769 B.C. Pshhhh look it up. ;)
     
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    Keep on dreaming.
     
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    I would take a 60's Corvette over a 2013 all day long. Even though I didn't grow up with them a '63 split window gives me a huge hard-on. What a beaut!

    1963-chevy-corvette-at-car-show.jpg
     
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  20. glew

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    So true! It's become a sad day when simple car maintenance is no longer simple.