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What's the point of SEO if I have no idea how and what and why?!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by BottingWorks, Aug 6, 2012.

  1. BottingWorks

    BottingWorks Regular Member

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    Ranking. It's the main reason for all this.

    So, what's the best way to check the most important SEO ranks?

    Why is it I can't seem to even get a score of 1 on my 'PR Rank' correct me if that's the wrong way to name it.

    How long can ranking take to improve or even happen with some Blackhat SEO being done?

    Will my domain age really affect my rankings?


    Really appreciate any help, answers that can be offered. I know it sounds like I'm a kid grasping for the answers to the universe, but I log on to BHW daily to just attempt to soak up the vast amount of information supplied!


    - Thanks given to all responses. - A little bribe! :D
     
  2. steelballs

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    For starters I will address PR Rank which is a flawed metrics these days of almost zero credibility and value circa 2012

    I am sure many posts to follow will fill you in on the other queries
     
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  3. SmartMan

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    I suggest you to paste that questions in the Search box(Look at top left corner of this page just behind your profile image) and read through those threads which will give you much clear idea about what is SEO,How to get PageRank,How long will it take to rank a site with BlackHat SEO,etc..,

    $SmartMan$
     
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  4. BottingWorks

    BottingWorks Regular Member

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    I've been doing that, there have been some great answers. Just wanted to ask a few directly and see what I could come up with!
     
  5. weruncompanies

    weruncompanies Power Member

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    I know it can be frustrating but keep at it. Consider it an investment in your future, your taking the time to educate yourself.. I worked a day job for 2 years, made literally nothing, but I was allowed to teach myself.. Now I'm qualified for a $100-200K job field thanks to that time I dedicated to learn. I put so much time into learning when I was given the opportunity that now I don't apply to jobs under $100K. SEO is the same process it's a something you put time into and you learn, and in the future you'll start making real money.

    Now onto your questions,

    I use SERPFox.com, or another is SERPBuddy to check rankings, or just Google it.
    PR take a long time to update, there was a recent one, but you have to build high PR backlinks, and do more than just that.
    It depends on the competition/searches/etc, sometimes I can rank easy on page one in 2-3 days, other times 2-3 years.
    Yes your domain age will affect it, but if you're building the right links, content, etc you can overcome this quite a bit.
     
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  6. BottingWorks

    BottingWorks Regular Member

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    I'll check in on those ranking sites, cheers for that!
    What do you mean by a recent one? Where would I build these high PR backlinks? On EDU and WIKI?
    2-3 years? What would affect that timeframe?
    Say my links weren't the best, could the domain age balance me out and improve the ranking?
     
  7. BottingWorks

    BottingWorks Regular Member

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    Bump! x
     
  8. BottingWorks

    BottingWorks Regular Member

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    Any more help? :)
     
  9. weruncompanies

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    As in a recent PR update. If you Use a page rank checker it won't be accurate all of the time as it takes Google awhile to update all the sites. Google just updated all the PRs for all of the websites a few days ago, they don't do it often it's only once in awhile. So if you build a bunch of backlinks and wait a month and your PR is the same, you have to wait for Google to update it (randomly). Start building high PR blog comments, Web 2.0's and blast backlinks to those, guest posts, blog networks, etc. Get a huge diversity of links. Make sure you have plenty of content on your website, make sure your on-page SEO is good. For 2-3 years, I mean that's how much time I'll spend trying to rank ONE site so it's so tough to rank it. Normal sites can be ranked in 2-3 months after being built. The time frame for me is the $, trying to slowly build links for the long term so I can keep my rank. It takes much more $ and time to build high quality links vs low quality links. For an average site I wouldn't worry about this, but this is a site that could pull in hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. For the last question, it's not really... Domain age is a big factor, but links are very important. Links + Content are way more important than domain age. Low quality links are okay, you don't want all high PR links you need a good mix. But still domain age will help, but you still need content + links to rank well. Start building more links, build some web 2.0's, since you're new. I would hire someone in BHW buy sell trade section and order a single service, the smallest package you can find. Test out the waters with a small offer, and see how it goes. Let that build your foundation, keep learning and then in the meantime keep building links and content.
     
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  10. markhenry121

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    Yes, Rank is main reasons because if your site display in top 10 means traffic will be high. Many tool are available for checking SEO rank, you can also check in BHW search box or Search in SE?s, check this one link-assistant.com/rank-tracker/ .i am not getting this point ?Why is it I can't seem to even get a score of 1 on my 'PR Rank' correct me if that's the wrong way to name it? . if your using manual that?s best because if you are using any software so some time that?s leave bad effect means over optimization. Yes, domain name also effect on rank because if user remained your domain so he is also return means it?s converted to return user always that?s good for you. But one most impotent point quality content that?s always helpful.
     
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  11. BottingWorks

    BottingWorks Regular Member

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    Really appreciate the input guys!

    I've been using a program that puts links and articles on a lot of websites.

    It's made plenty of submissions but not verified many, is that a problem?

    I also have a problem with not even being ranked on Google for 2/3 of my main keywords. Why would this be?

    How often are PR updates usually?

    I'll keep reading, keep learning and hopefully one day be a top BHW member! Haha
     
  12. jeetendra

    jeetendra Newbie

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    I also want to know as I have been in internet marketing for long and I dont see any worth of keeping my seo work on my websites. So I just need opinion from other guru marketeers regarding seo stuff these days
     
  13. soundsdelicious

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    If you have these questions you have not spent the time to learn the fundamentals.

    you can't expect to solve a complex algebraic equation without understanding addition, subtraction, multiplication and division.
    There's a lot of really stupid posts on this forum. Sometimes I make them, too - so this isn't always the best place to learn what you need. Plenty of disinfo out there.

    Anyway, to answer your questions:

    1. (It depends on what you're tracking)

    2.(Probably because the backlinks you get are shit)

    3. (usually wait a few days to be indexed, and see movement a several days after that)

    4. (yes)
     
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  14. BottingWorks

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    I'm doing my best mate, so if this thread is considered stupid then I apologise.

    Appreciate the input though. What would be considered good blacklinks over bad ones?

    Will bad ones every help ranking?



    Not the most helpful answer that's been posted but I appreciate your input!
     
  15. BottingWorks

    BottingWorks Regular Member

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    Bump! A great thread so far. Lets keep it going! :)
     
  16. soundsdelicious

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    I wasn't calling this thread stupid. I said this forum isn't the best place to learn because there's lots of nonsense mixed in with what works.

    Despite that, learning the fundamentals is the best tip you can get, short of someone spoon-feeding a career to you.
    Get reading!
     
  17. TehEpidemick

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    as far as the how long will blackhat SEO rankings boost take, if your asking this question your ranking is going down