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What's the deal with needing 2000 words of text per page to rank with seo?

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  1. alterego888

    alterego888 Registered Member

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    Does a website need 2000 words of text per page to rank for seo because many of the bets websites out their have less than 20 words on the site and utilize a simple icon/picture structure on their website. So I am confused do I need to write 2000 words which no one wants to read and make my site look more ugly, or can I have minimal words like less than 50 or 20 on the site and still rank for organic seo? If I begin to utlilize offsite seo will it matter? Your responses will be appreciated. Thank you.
     
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    somebodysomewhere Junior Member

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    2000 is excessive in my opinion. Usually 300-500 will do, however it depends on your niche. Pictures and video interspersed also does well. You want it to appear as well rounded and engaging as possible. 20-50, I would be worried about keyword density and or a minimal content slap if that's all that was on the page.
     
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    20-50 is too little
    create around 300 and 800 words articles, media rich, add social media buttons
    and you'll have more traction on Google

    Hope it helps
     
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    Go to adwords.google.com type in "porn sites". You'll find this page on #1 http://theporndude.com/ Text has nothing to do with it.
     
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    content should be unique .. Doesnot matter The Number of Words .. It can be 300 words too
     
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    2000 words of content is not imperative for ranking well in Google. Sites can even rank well with no content as long as they have a title. That said, the longer your content, the higher the number of long tail keywords it can draw traffic through.
     
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    There is no golden rule for any onpage seo parameters. Check the keywords you want to target and see the sites that show up on the first page.

    Rule of thumb - do what is the best for the consumer of your site. If the people using the keywords to search for your site are benefited by more text, then optimize your text. If its images or video, then optimize accordingly.
     
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    A longer article on the order of 1000-2000 words has been shown in several web case studies to be treated by the search engines as carrying a bit more innate authority for the keywords, especially if it links out to other authority pages in its niche. It's a tactic for getting more onpage authority, although you can also get such authority from overall onpage tactics, offpage tactics like high-PA backlinking, and good social signals.
     
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    subkutz Newbie

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    I use video, <h3> tagged heading with keyword inside of the post and finally I write about 20 -50 words. Working great for me, but I guess it depends on your niche.
     
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    Obviously, the responses vary. I don't think that the word count is that relevant when it comes to this issue. Based on my experience, the quality and the uniqueness of the content is what matters. But when it comes to the word count, I usually write or outsource and post 300-700-word articles.
     
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    This is more accurate in my opinion. You certainly don't need to have 2000 words on a page to make it rank. I usually only do about 250-750. The truth is that you don't need to have a ton of text on your page, you just need enough to accurately describe the page and what your selling on that page. Title is far more important than any copy. The copy just helps. If it's an article that you're putting on the page then you need 500+ words at least and it should be unique content. If it's a product page it doesn't hurt to have a video and pdf on it as well.
     
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    himanuzo Supreme Member

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    If your page is about persuading visitors to buy something, 1,000 words per page is enough for SEO purpose.
     
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    NotDysfunktional Newbie

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    Simple Answer: 800-1000 words & add video to drop the bounce rate.
    google: iwriter
     
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    There is no set amount of words, you just need enough so it's focused enough so Google can put you in the line for competing with the keywords. It's what shows Google you're relevant.

    I've ranked single page websites with 100 words or less in 40 days. They are still 1st now. Yes they not that competitive but still shows you don't need lots of text to rank.

    Relevancy get's you on the track, if you want to get in the final race you need to qualify (relevancy and good links), if you want to come first you need to be better than everyone else in the eyes of Google (best links + good content).
     
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    2000 words is overkill, you're not writing a novel you're writing a short article about something. It should be long enough to keep the reader interested but short enough not to take up too much time or make your reader bored. 300-750 words is more than enough
     
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    It depends upon the size of your site as a whole too. If your site has 3 pages at 3,000 words each it's worse than a 50 page site with 250 words each. But I agree that 2,000 is a lot of words... can't think of many legit sites with articles that long unless it's a news site.
     
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    Your word count and density are only relevant based on your niche, and what's being spoken about. Optimize your website for users first and search engines second. Google is trying to mimmic user needs and wants, building your on-site factors to match what users want is your best bet moving forward.

    Now, if you want to get a bit sketchy with offsite factors...
     
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    Lots of ways to include text into a website or blog legally without risking a penalty from Google. You can use the alt tags for photos as well as photo description, placed near any photo. This will help Google discern the true meaning of your page and determine what it's about. Use meaningful anchor text when backlinking to your pages, but not the same phrase everytime you backlink.