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Whats the catch with using Sqidoo and Hub pages?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by devilived, Oct 26, 2010.

  1. devilived

    devilived Junior Member

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    I have been doing some keyword research for a few days, i got a dozen niches with about 100 keywords for each. I dont want to buy a domain for each niche.

    I have never used sqidoo and hubpages, i know most of you here use it as a landing page.

    But what's the catch while using these 2 web 2.0 properties, do they allow affiliate links?

    Which one is better and more "visible" on big G ?
     
  2. artfuldodger

    artfuldodger Registered Member

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    Hubpages is far more visible, aff links can be used 2 per hub or more if you have other domains and set up redirects.

    Hubpages can be pretty powerful on its own for more than just landing pages - with around 200 published hubs, I saw around 3k in commish last(this) month - via ebay/amazon/adsense
     
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  3. nycwriter

    nycwriter Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Squidoo and Hubpages are awesome-- they do allow affiliate links, and you have the benefit of making your pages on sites that are already established so they rank more quickly.

    The "catch" is that you don't control the content anymore (like you would if you published your own site on your own domain like with a Wordpress installation on the back end), you have to follow their rules (meaning there are some things you are NOT allowed to make lenses and hubpages about-- for instance, Squidoo won't let me make a lens about "getting rid of acne scars" for some reason, and that you're only getting fractional (shared) profit from the advertising. You still have to do the promotion, but you're likely to have to make more lenses and hubpages because you'd need so many of them to generate income.

    The answer is: you're always better off diversifying, so it's good to have both.
     
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  4. benpari

    benpari Registered Member

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    Hubpages is easier to get ranking than squidoo(atleast right now).

    However, hubpages is cracking down hard on forum, comment, and profile backlink spam.
     
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  5. pyronaut

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    The catch is you are at the mercy of some of the dumbest people around.

    Hubpages - Bans almost all hubs. I wrote one explaining what to look out for when buying a VPS, and they said it was too commercial because I obviously linked to a hosting company... Almost every hub I have wrote has had some issue.

    Squidoo - Everything goes well. Then they will just close your account with all your lenses in it. They won't tell you what is and what isn't allowed, just that your account obviously fell under same vague rule. For me it was something regarding linking to a movie links site, which in actual fact was not require by the lens at all (The account had about 10 other lenses on there), I offered to not only remove the link, but remove the entire lens. They would have none of it and just left my account banned.

    Basically, you need to be up to the play that you are relying on someone else to keep making money. Quite a precarious situation. Also both companies want you to make money off their ads, amazon ads, and other modules. They DONT want you linking out to affiliate sites.

    IMO, if you are not buying domains because it is too expensive to begin with. Just find a free webhost that offers a subdomain. Webs.com, weebly.com etc where they are bit more lax on the rules.
     
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  6. moneygame

    moneygame Junior Member

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    Like the person above said, you are really at the mercy of the users. That being said, if you are selling a quality product and linking to that quality product, you normally won't have an issue. If you end up promoting some shit, don't be surprised when your stuff gets flagged.

    /you've been warned.
     
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  7. MaxTucker

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    There are so many complaints about hubpages. However, I still I receive at least 500 uniqes per week from my hubs, sometimes 2k. I have just over 70 hubs and 950 or so fans. I automate a lot of my hubpage work but all the hubs have quality content. As per usual content is the key.

    People hub about 'how to enlarge your penis naturally' and are surprised they're banned, idiots. If you're smart about hubbing, don't step on any toes, build a big friends list and post good content you wont be banned. Oh, don't xrummer blast or SB comment blast your hubs. However, if you're a sneaky **** xrummer the shit out of competitors hubs.

    I mostly automate adding friends to my account with imacros. It helps with your exposure on hub pages. I have close to 1k fans. I also automate commenting on random Hubs which raises exposure and usually leads to people following you. It is easy with the hubhopper + iMacros.

    The adsense doesn't pay much but it us enough to buy myself a few beers each month and who can complain about that?
     
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  8. MaxTucker

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    If anybody is interested I can post a few hub page tutorials. How to rape hubpages and not get banned ect.
     
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    I'd be very interested, thanks.
     
  10. goodseoman

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    I thought Squidoo was pretty lax ? I posted a few lenses with commercial content and a bunch of backlinks to my site. To date, they haven't banned my account ... yet.
     
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  11. devilived

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    So basically i can have 2 outgoing affiliate links from sqidoo and 2 from hubpages.

    i dont want to use their adsense modules or amazon or ebay module, i want to use my own affiliate links or amazon links.. is it recommendable, assuming that i have quality content ?
     
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    They are pretty lax, but once they find one lens that is bad. They will give you the boot with no recourse. I guess they just aren't as active as hubpages in squashing people.
     
  13. gerbor

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    I'm very interested in this. I have one medium sized competitor that has a nice hub page and I want to figure out how to beat him (senseless if possible).

    Would appreicate it if you could drop some knowlege on us
     
  14. hyc2010

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    If you are banned from hub and squidoo, or accounts were closed, can you create new accounts?
     
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    I think its 2 links for hubpages...and the last I heard no more than 8 on squidoo.
    For squidoo it is no more than 8 links to the same site so you can have more than 8 outgoing links as long as they dont go to the same site.
    As for hubpages I am not so sure. The last hub I built I tried to have 2 affiliate links to the same site and I got a warning that it may be seen as spam. All I did was use a url shortener for the 2nd aff. link to bypass the warning.
    Squidoo has certain blacklisted keywords and keep adding more as time goes by. You can't create lenses about downloading anything, movie sites or gambling. Weight loss and acne remedies are blacklisted as well.
    Once a new subject is blacklisted they will make a sweep and lock all the lenses about that subject. I have had pr 4 lenses with 200+ hits a day locked and that sucks. But I have never had an account banned...YET!
    I would suggest that if you use these sites and see that a keyword is profitable. Jump in and buy the domain and build it up from there.
     
  16. beatuplunchbox

    beatuplunchbox Junior Member

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    Just build a better hub.
    More content, more modules with keywords in the headers,
    build more df links (altho they do crack down if you go overboard)
    also follow some of the members there.
    Same goes with squidoo.

    You do have to play by their rules but they are easy to rank and get traffic to as opposed to starting a site from scratch...

    Works for me
     
  17. devilived

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    anyone does ezine articles allow direct linking to sqidoo or hubpages from the author's resource box ?
    or do i need a domain redirect ?
     
  18. mccullum

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    squidoo has lost a lot of authority and nobody sees it regaining that.Hubpages is the best to use if you are going to post articles to a third party domain.And it ranks really well in google.In yahoo,it ranks well too but not as much as in G.
     
  19. devilived

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    Anyone --> anyone does ezine articles allow direct linking to sqidoo or hubpages from the author's resource box ?
    or do i need a domain redirect ??