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Whats the best "ratio" when defining how competitive niche is?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by pdoods, Mar 29, 2009.

  1. pdoods

    pdoods Regular Member

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    So I'm doing this basic research to see if my niche is worth to break in to it. What I do is I check how much searches does the keyword phrase get per month. Then I check how many results Google gives for my keyword phrase without quotes. Then WITH the quotes.

    Current kw phrase on my niche I'm looking into gets approx. 4 400 searches per month, without quotes Google gives me 422,000 results and with quotes 10,100.

    Is there a rule of thumb or recommended "ratio" between search volume and search results for a worthy niche?
     
  2. catchme

    catchme Regular Member

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    If you want to go into a niche, "just do it". Some niches may take longer time for results but this means it is worth it.
     
  3. chickenugget

    chickenugget Newbie

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    Agree with above in that some niche's are harder to break into than others. I would try and do some sort of measure of effort. What do the backlinks look like for the Top 10 results - lots of engineered links - sure fire signal that it is gonna take some time and effort to break the SERP - all look natural with no obvious bought links - then don;t tell anyone;) - you could be onto a winner!
     
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    terryuk Junior Member

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    Check out a cool tool at linkdiagnosis.com, with that you see the amount of links over different domains and frequency of anchors used.
     
  5. Trota

    Trota Regular Member

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    if its a profitable niche just go for it, cause it may take some time but in the long term you will see some good profits. if it's not a profitable niche just move on to the next one and dont spend time and money on a niche that is not worth it.
     
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    olm75 Power Member

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    well i am just starting and i use the market samurai program and use the filters it has in it, but i have read and watched alot of tutorials and tested a little and i am looking for less than 5000 exact match, and 30000 broad or at most 50000, depending on how many keyword phrase choices you have... i picked a niche and got on the 2 links on the first page of google in no time and it was a subdomain i was suprised... i do alot of web 2.0 traffic also now i have to focus more on blogs... just extra info... from noob to noob
     
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  7. pdoods

    pdoods Regular Member

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    Thanks for the tips!

    What's the best way to test out niche for free? I usually buy .com domain and that usually costs that $9, but I was wondering could I first test it out with blogger blogs or something?
     
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    You can def try it out with blogger blogs first, you will get indexed pretty fast and generally get fairly fast traffic (dependant on niche etc)...

    I know a few people who just use blogger and make decent $$
     
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    creztor Power Member

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    One of the "many" IM products I've read says that if anyone of the top 10 results in google for the phrase has 1 website that is PR 3 or less and has less than 50 links (I think it was 50) then it is doable. But, just do it. I believe the above info just meant you can get on the front page kind of fast. Otherwise it will take time but if you keep at it you'll get there.
     
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  10. squelsh

    squelsh Regular Member

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    Hi pdoods,

    I've been searching for an answer to this questions myself as well. Basically I've come up with a few different ideas from different people, but nothing solid.

    One suggestion has been to start an adwords campaign for the keywords (Not sure where you would point the campaign if you're not buying a domain.. can you use blogger, squidoo, someone else's site?)

    Another has been to build a black hat and get it on the first page to test whether build a white hat would be worthwhile.

    If you know something has a conversion of say 1% you could put a squidoo/ezine site up and bookmark it a few times. I guess you could work out the traffic using the Aol stats.

    As an alternative you could buy a kw rich domain and launch an autoblog with a sales page. Between the affiliate link and the advertising on the site this should cover its costs, so no money lost there.

    Haven't really tried any of these yet. If anyone has any other suggestions or refinements I would be glad to hear them.
     
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