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Whats the best method of determining page rank.

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Scotland, Mar 30, 2011.

  1. Scotland

    Scotland Regular Member

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    Hey...

    Ive been harvesting a few forums, websites etc using scrapebox and ive a question that I hope someone can answer. When I'm using scrapebox it gives the pr of the url thats found. I'll use one of my harvested links example....according to scrapebox its a 6, according to firefox seo book addon its a 4, and using a pr checking website its a 3!!...

    How do we tell which one is the "true" pr?

    Cheers guys.

    John
     
  2. teeniegenie

    teeniegenie Supreme Member

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    Google has a toolbar you can download into FireFox that will show you PR. I'd say that one is fairly accurate...
     
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    philionaire Regular Member

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    When I bought a high PR domain I used these 2 websites:

    Code:
    http://www.digpagerank.com/
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    http://www.cekpr.com/
    HTH.
     
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  4. chimmychang

    chimmychang Newbie

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    @Scotland <---

    Seomoz has a great tool for comparing the google PR and the MOZ rank.

    It's been really accurate for me.

    They have some free tools to use.

    Here is an article going over the difference.

    http://www.seomoz.org/ugc/google-pagerank-vs-seomoz-page-authority-which-is-a-better-metric

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    Hope that helps! :)
     
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  5. Monrox

    Monrox Power Member

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    seomoz claiming that their own approach is better... how unoriginal. That and the G's desperate pleas to ignore the PR can only mean that PR is very much alive and relevant. But since it's just an opinion of mine that I am not interested in changing, no point in turning it into a discussion.

    Scotland, post some url that is giving you a headache and people would be able to tell you what's going on. E. g. SB probably checks the complete url which if it contains a subdomains will give you a different PR than the domain's.
     
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    Scotland Regular Member

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    There wasn't any particular url, it was them all!!. Ive download the google toolbar and used that in comparison to seobook toolbar and the 2 seem to be identical. Like you mentioned, scrapebox may be displaying something else. I thought though, that scrapebox giving you the option to check page rank for both url and domain would prevent this happening surely?
     
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    master-of-backlinks Regular Member

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    Go to the actual site in Firefox with the Google tool bar open and it will give you the actual PR of the site.
     
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    Monrox Power Member

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    That is why I said you should post a sample URL, one that is not important to you if you are afraid someone may steal a valuable backlink opportunity. Only this way you can get a meaningful breakdown of the reasons, otherwise it's just wild guesses.

    As to your last question, determining the actual domain programatically is a real mess. Humans will know instantly that the domain of blog.coolstuff.co.uk is coolstuff.co.uk but with a program you must tell it in advance what a domain can and can't be.

    In the above example a program will need to be told to consider the last 3 parts as the domain. But in case of blog.coolstuff.com that would be the last 2 parts.

    In case of blog.coolstuff.ca we need the last 2 parts (coolstuff.ca) but there can also be blog.coolstuff.ab.ca in which case the PR must be checked for coolstuff.ab.ca

    And where .us is involved you can have
    blog.coolstuff.us (last 2 parts)
    blog.coolstuff.nsn.us (last 3 parts)
    blog.coolstuff.cc.al.us (last 4! parts)

    Three different cases to take care for in order to get meaningful PR results.

    It would appear that the rule of thumb for SB is that the domain PR you get is always the PR of the url between 'http://' and the next '/'. That may or may not be the actual domain.

    Lastly, it is a bad idea to have the toolbar installed as it is a great tracking tool (but not in your advantage). Do you really want G to know that you are not only visiting forums and stuff but also exactly what you ask and where you're asking it?
     
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    teeniegenie Supreme Member

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